段涛:99%的皮肤科医生或将被淘汰!

2017-07-16 邱知之 看医界

“所以医学上面剩下的医生都是纯手工的手艺人,才能够活的下来,那些靠看看图片,看图像吃饭的医生大多数都会被人工智能取代。”

“AI诊断皮肤癌准确度堪比专家!这是来自《自然》的封面报道。皮肤病主要就是看照片,因此未来可能很多皮肤科医生都会被人工智能取代!”7月12日,在由张江发布举办的“医疗智能时代--人工智能、机器人、大数据与未来医疗”论坛上,宣布创业不久的知名妇产科专家、上海一妇婴原院长、微医妇儿医联体总院长段涛如此判断。

在人工智能向多领域发起冲击的大背景下,人工智能是否会替代医生的争论此起彼伏,段涛表示,人工智能彻底取代医生是不可能的,也不可能取代绝大多数医生,但取代一部分医生的概率还是比较大的。

哪些领域的医生首先会受到冲击甚至被取代呢?

首当其冲就是皮肤科。“使用人工智能的分析软件,把全球最好的皮肤科专家,全球所有的皮肤科的疾病都整理好、对应好,只要把患者的患处照片发过去人工智能就告诉你这是什么,而且诊断比我们绝大多数的皮肤科医生都要准确,都要及时。还要那么多皮肤科医生干嘛?99%的皮肤科医生就可能都没活干了。”

此外,病理科也将遭到巨大冲击。据段涛介绍,从2017年开始,人工智能在医疗领域的应用,不同人发了很多的项目,包括谷歌就做了一个病理的诊断系统,还可以学习,给他看很多很多的病理切片,让系统成为一个专家。有一个病理专家花了整整三个多小时的时间看130张切片,然后把他跟谷歌的人工智能作比较,病理学家的准确率是73.3%,人工智能是88.5%。完胜人类!

不仅如此,“现在做人工智能很多公司,就把病理的切片,用人工智能的技术进行细胞筛查,可以把70%到80%正常的标本完全过掉,只剩下20%到30%有问题的才让病理科医生看。所以不用两到三年,中国的病理科医生真的不要培养那么多。”

此外还有影像科。“影像科也不要读那些片子了,前段时间一家人工智能公司获得融资,做肺部结节的图片,就是放射科,他们把全中国最好的几个肺部读片专家的结果作为标准,用人工智能,做了不到两百个病人的案例,最终他们得出来的一个结论是什么呢?这个人工智能系统可以达到95%到98%的专家水平。”

段涛表示,“也就是他们拿这个跟普通二级医院和三级医院水平比的话,二级医院和三级医院的水平只能达到60%多和不到80%,他们可以达到90%多。”

“Aboveaverage的医生由AI做助理,Belowaverage的医生是做AI的助理”,段涛表示,那些能力低于平均值的医生需要有危机感了。

作为妇产科医生,段涛表示人工智能取代医生的可能性不大。“为什么?你不能机器来帮你接生吧。”

“所以医学上面剩下的医生都是纯手工的手艺人,才能够活的下来,那些靠看看图片,看图像吃饭的医生大多数都会被人工智能取代。”

除了危机感,人工智能对于很多医生来说还是很好的帮手。

据段涛介绍,现在不少人工智能,是帮助医生的。人工智能帮医生有两个非常大的优势,虽然不能替医生做决定,但是首先可以大大提高准确率,因为医生每天看那么多的东西,眼睛要看花掉,诊断的准确率会下降,但是如果人工智能机器去做的话,它永远不会,而且诊断的准确会逐步的提升。不仅如此,效率还会明显提升,像原来一个人可以看20张片子,人工智能分析系统可以看两百张片子,两千张都可以。

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    2017-07-17 kane35

    从重复劳动中解放出来,做更高端的业务,也好。

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    2017-07-17 186****0580(小山羊)

    学习了谢谢了。

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    2017-07-17 明天会更好!

    不错的,学习了,谢谢分享!

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    2017-07-17 Jackie Li

    学习

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    2017-07-16 克勤

    收益颇多

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    2017-07-16 明心见性

    不会人工智能的医生不是好医生,哈哈

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    2017-07-16 1dea4a7em68(暂无匿称)

    有道理!医学互联网+时代对医生冲击和帮助很大!

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