进了国外医院,才发现我们欠中国医生一声道歉

2017-09-21 佚名 规培医生整理报告

对于中国的医疗,“看病难,看病贵”一直是被吐槽的。 你说看病贵,看病难?咱们来看看那些走出国门在国外医院的就诊经历,你才会发现你自己真的很幸福!

孩子妈陪女儿在斯坦福大学医院做了一个有关心脏的手术,术后5天就出院回家。还在庆祝康复呢,收到账单后吓傻了:一共170万美元,换算成人民币是1100多万元!北京一套房没了。那要是在其他二三线城市,卖10套房都不够吧……

先来看看妈妈的微信:


其实这并不是什么个例。早前一个叫“乐爸”的杭州小学校长带儿子去洛杉矶旅游,结果孩子不小心左手脱臼,送去急诊,经过了两个小时的等待、询问、检查后,孩子的胳膊才复位。

慢是一码事,关键是手臂脱臼这种儿童常见事故,放到中国医院也就100元人民币的事,“倒霉”的乐爸颤抖着晒出账单,医生费用“只”需要支付200美金(约1330人民币),但是还有医院费用2596美金(约17300元人民币)。乐爸感慨:“美国的医疗费用,超越了人类的想象力!”,结论:“带孩子在美国看了一次病后,我觉得自己欠中国医生一声道歉!



前往美国旅游的黄先生也对天价账单感同身受。

黄先生和太太在4月通过旅游签证来美国旧金山游玩,但是周末的时候,黄先生却突然上吐下泻,腹痛难忍,最后,黄先生不得不上美国医院看急诊。

本来黄先生以为,在美国看医生,跟中国差不了多少,不外乎是交多点急诊挂号费,等待时间长一些,然而却发现并不是那么一回事。

他看的“急诊”是美国医院的Emergency Room(急诊室)服务,医生说他是急性肠炎,需要入院观察,在经过一晚折腾后,最后也就拿了点药出院。

本以为万事大吉,却不料事后收到医院的账单上,竟然需要本人支付高达20000美元的医疗费!

常识:在美国看病真的很贵

先看看网友晒出了两案例

案例1:馋吃隔夜火锅还懒得热,结果拉肚子,发烧38-39度,没经验选择去了ER,结果挂号完测完身高体重体温血压,就被晾在等候室里,等了有四个多小时。等候室椅子也不舒服,然后感觉特别困也觉得没那么烧了,就回去了…连大夫都没看到,账单寄到后是450美金,还是保险后(保险只给付了80多块钱)。

案例2:我堂兄骑摩托车出了车祸,他没有保险,在医院里呆了四天……然后这次住院总共消费125991.11美元,约合人民币75万元。



所以,去美国玩的盆友,最好不要生病!不只是游客,就美国民众都不敢生病、生不起病!

其实美国的医疗体系是市场化的!私立医院是美国医院的中流砥柱,占医院总数的80%(和我们国家相反)。医疗定价是由医院等机构自己决定的!医生和病人之间本质上就是商业行为!(救死扶伤?看RP!)

医生和医院的费用是分开收费的!所以一般就诊后半个月你会源源不断地收到从各个地方寄来的账单。在此之前你都完全不知道你这次看病会花多少钱。你更不知道这些费用会不会导致自己破产。在美国,因为巨额医疗贷款而导致的个人破产占全美破产个案的62%。

如果这还不够直观的话,我们来看一下网友对于医疗的留言,你可能会有更深刻的领悟。



最有特点的是这个,美国有一条法律,急救的话,不能够向患者提前透露所需要的医疗费用。



因为可能涉及到要钱还是要命这个很严肃的哲学问题。



美国医疗如此之贵,澳洲会不会好一些呢?

先看一组数据报告:



很明显的看出,澳洲,排在医疗昂贵的世界前列。

用一个真实的案例告诉大家,澳洲的医疗账单,一样要人命:

小陆(化名)的父亲,2013年1月份从国内来到澳洲探望儿子,1月下旬的一个星期三,小陆的年过6旬的父亲说头晕,一量血压达到230,后来没有出现进一步的症状而休息睡着。次日小陆带父亲去看家庭医生(GP),医生开了降压药,让陆父回家观察。

但到了周五,陆父血压仍然很高,着急的小陆马上带父亲到医院看急诊。医生给陆父照了x 光、查血验尿、并查了心电图,输了2瓶盐水之后开了些防眩晕的药。

小陆带着父亲看急诊,这次医生诊断后立即给陆父照了CT,发现其脑部有淤血,马上召救护车将陆父送到另一家脑外科医院进行手术,插导管,将颅内液体引流出来。

小陆说:“当时我父亲的颅压非常高,有中风症状。医生当时对我说,必须马上手术,要么就是死。还好当时手术做得非常成功。手术后父亲马上就清醒了过来。”

不幸的是,陆父术后颅内导管发生堵塞,医院对其又进行了第二次手术。之后陆父在医院一共住了两个多星期。陆父在脑出血之后,虽然手术成功,但是术后还有很多康复课程要做,包括重新学走路、学说话、理疗按摩等。

小陆说:“这场大病之后,他除了我谁都不认识了,什么都不记得。而我的妈妈经受不起这样的打击,出于健康方面的考虑,那时已经先回中国休养。她不愿我们担心她,希望我能够全心全力先照顾好父亲。”

陆父手术做完后,小陆随后就收到了医院开出的账单。住院费加上化验等各项费用每天需2045澳元,这还不包括手术费、麻醉等费用。

全部算下来要5万澳币以上!

可能有人觉得,这都已经做手术了,20多万人民币也还可以接受。毕竟没有美国的1100万那么可怕。

那,你或许太天真了.....



杨女士前往澳大利亚旅游,在旅行途中摔了一跤,造成股骨颈骨折。当地接受了治疗,总计花费医疗费用12万左右。

哦,一次小小的感冒,可能就会烧掉你\$4582澳币。



还有以下这个网友举的例子,在天涯上一个女子因为有medicare所以去看病,没想到最后,做了个结肠镜也花了她1450AUD!还没算上问诊费...



还有一位女生,在网上吐槽:仅仅救护车的费用可能已经达到\$800澳币。对了,这还只是10分钟的路程,如果远一点,突破4位数轻轻松松。



再看看国内的医疗,有没有生活在国内的自豪感?

医疗的定价又不是医生定的,若你想得到优质的医疗服务,那就请尊重医生吧!这个只能自己慢慢体会。

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    2017-09-24 周周人

    学习.

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    是很好的学习材料.不错.以后会多学习.

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    2017-09-21 戒馋,懒,贪

    谢谢分享.超厉害的说

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