一张医院处方引热议 一针见血直指医改真相

2017-04-06 常 路 环球医学

近日,一名患者在深圳两家医院皮肤科看病的两种不同经历和感受以及一张处方单引发网友及同行热议。

近日,一名患者在深圳两家医院皮肤科看病的两种不同经历和感受以及一张处方单引发网友及同行热议。

据媒体报道,该患者因为痘痘分别去了港大深圳医院和另一家内地大学的附属医院看病。在港大深圳医院,挂号费是150块钱,这在老百姓看来是相当贵了,但药费也只是100来块钱,看病的时间大于10分钟;而在另一家内地大学附属医院,挂号费虽然只要7块钱,很便宜,但是药费却是500多块钱,看病的时间也不到3分钟。

而其晒出的港大深圳医院处方单上,主诉、现病史、体格检查、辅助检查、诊断诊疗计划、复诊计划均有写明,而且简洁明了,让人一目了然。

看到这,如果是你,你会选择去哪家医院看病呢?不少网友纷纷发表意见,认为就医过程中该值钱的是医生的知识,而不是药。

@波波:一个病人挂号费收150元vs22个病人挂号费共收154元,你说如果医生有自主选择权他会如何选择?一句话,这不是医生能够决定的!

@ΨLuke KnightΨ:该值钱的是医生的知识!支持!!!然而,大家知道吗?大家知道了,能认同吗?“值钱的只是钱”难道不是成为了普遍认同吗?知识有价值,还需靠大家一起努力!

@仰望天空:我认为提高医生的诊疗费很关键,医生通过技术得到合法的收入,同时也得到社会的认可。那样才能体现出医生的价值。没有收入是不行,当今社会不可能人人都成雷锋吧?通过技术服务实现合法收入,才不会导致乱开药,开高价药!

@人道佛:公平开放市场,放开价格管制,医保部门只需按照医保筹资能力支付,其余交给市场,交给商业保险,严格行业技术欺诈监管,不出五年,中国医疗服务一定大大改善。当然,取消价格管制是最核心的,过去由发改委主导管制的行业无一成功——从电视机到汽车,再到现在医改。

@肖思云:赞成提高医生的挂号费,体现学术的价值。

……

真正的医改,就应该是提高医生的诊查费及治疗费用,杜绝以药养医。3月22日,北京市卫计委举办医药分开综合改革新闻发布会。正式发布了《北京市医药分开综合改革实施方案》。4月8日起,北京市行政区域内3600多家医疗机构将全面取消药品加成,设立医事服务费取代原有的药品加成、挂号费和诊疗费,并对435个医疗服务项目价格进行调整。

让医生收入与所开药物脱钩,釜底抽薪治理过度医疗问题,让医疗工作者的劳动收入体现在明面上,体现在医务人员的技术劳动价值上,这才是医改真正需要去做的。

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    2017-04-08 tidiq
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    2017-04-07 飘飘爱

    很好

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    2017-04-07 医艺依意

    到时候医事费出来了,大家再议不迟

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    2017-04-07 zhumingxun

    本质应该是病人花最少的钱看好病,其他一切应该与之无关,这时侯国家或患者群应该承担这些医生的体面收入。现在国家卸包袱,又不想让患者群承担,让医生咋办?

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    改来改去都是围绕两个问题:患者花多少?医生发多少?

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