卫计委和教育部顾首不顾尾了:四证合一带来的几个较为重要的新问题!

2015-06-19 佚名 中国医学博士联络站

1 专硕至少读四年才能拿到学位证书 最新规定,专硕需要先有执业医师证和规培证书,然后才能拿到学位证!但是,真正的实际情况如何呢? 医学的各种考试跨度都很长!比如执业医师考试,从考试报名到拿证书要一年的时间。再比如主治医师考试,从考试报名到拿证书,要跨过两个春节。 那么规培呢,也是如此!从报名参加规培到拿证,时间跨度太长! 比如2015年9月专硕入学,如果顺利报名参加规培,将在20

1 专硕至少读四年才能拿到学位证书

最新规定,专硕需要先有执业医师证和规培证书,然后才能拿到学位证!但是,真正的实际情况如何呢?

医学的各种考试跨度都很长!比如执业医师考试,从考试报名到拿证书要一年的时间。再比如主治医师考试,从考试报名到拿证书,要跨过两个春节。

那么规培呢,也是如此!从报名参加规培到拿证,时间跨度太长!

比如2015年9月专硕入学,如果顺利报名参加规培,将在2015年10月开始规培,三年之后,2018年10月规培结束,11月规陪结业考试,学员真正拿到规培证书药等到转年的5、6月份。

按最新的规定要求,专硕想毕业那年取得学位证书是不可能的。

即便是按照11月考试通过的时间来计算,如果结业考试通过就算数,不需要等拿证就可以发学位证书,那也会延期半年。

即便是缩短了这个跨度时间,也无法保证三年的培训时间!这就明显让学生延期了!

2 无法真正的保证规培质量

一般毕业季是在5、6月份,5月份答辩,6月份办理离校手续!所以,如果2015年9月入学,其实截止到2018年4月份就不能再规培了。何况毕业生还要四处奔波找工作,每个人可能情况不太一样,但找工作都会花几个月的时间,投简历、参加招聘会、面试、体检,还有考博的,必定会耽误规培的时间。而且刚刚入学时,还要先上政治、英语等基本课程,也需要时间的。

博士毕业的,都需要三年的规培时间,这四证合一的硕士在读期间本身就不能到达规定的规培年限,而且上学期间还会耽误不少时间。即便是延期毕业,也不能保证有充分的时间给予弥补。所以,无法保证规培质量,不可能达到既定的培养效果!

3 跨专业学生走投无路

2012年的科硕门还历历在目,跨专业的硕士,不能报考临床执业医师,一时激起,无数的跨专业学子纷纷反对,最终卫生部做出让步:1、截止2015年之前的科研型硕士可以报考临床执业医师;2、专业型硕士可以考临床执业医师。

所以很多想转到临床医学的学子,纷纷报考专业型硕士,因为根据政策,可以用专业型硕士的毕业证报考临床执业医师。但太不巧了,最近刚刚出台新政策,专业型硕士毕业,必须要有执业医师证书和规培证书。

这就让跨专业的学子走向了死循环,没有执业医师证书和规培证书就不能拿到专业型硕士毕业证和学位证,没有专业型硕士毕业证和学位证就不能报考执业医师,也不能参加规培。

在美国,读医学的,都是先读理工等专业,他们全部都是跨专业学医的!为何我国就对跨专业的学员那么苛刻呢?

4 剥夺了一部分人的受教育权利

最新政策规定已经取得规培证书的人,不得报考专业型硕士。这就让这部分人无法享受专业型硕士的高等教育,只能报考科研型的,只能去实验室做三年实验!大家都知道,科研型的毕业要求要难于专业型的,尤其是前半生没进过实验室的人,毕业受影响。找工作都喜欢要专业型的,所以找工作也受影响。工作后晋升也比专业型的慢。无形中让这部分人丧失了很多东西。

5 第二年拿不到执业医师证该怎么办

最新规定有一条是,专业型硕士第二年拿不到执业医师证,根据学员意向,可转入科研型。但是,都已经第二年了,只剩下最后一年的时间,还要找工作、答辩等等,如何在这根本就不到一年的时间内顺利完成科研型的学业呢?

6 导师其实喜欢招收科研型的

当今社会,唯sci为重!很多导师们都是希望招收科研型的研究生,去实验室,发论文。而四证合一,让众多学子纷纷报考专业型的,就会让一些导师很无奈。请问,如果有导师通过私人关系,不让专业型的学生去规培,而是在实验室做实验,这样学生即四证合一,又发了论文,上下一气,两全其美,这该怎么办?

7 四证合一规培期间的待遇如何保障


四证合一的学生,没有工资。文件规定,规培补助是发给已毕业的规培医生的。同样的规培,同样的劳动价值,为何待遇却不同样?应该如何平服四证合一们受伤的心灵? 

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    2016-04-01 wei834766788

    傻叉的政策

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    2015-06-26 stupidox

    拍脑门决定可不就是这样吗

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    2015-06-25 huaxipanxing

    看看

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    2015-06-21 erhong

    规培医生质量问题值得重视

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    2015-06-21 huagfeg
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    随便

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    2015-06-20 zhouanxiu

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