经验积累:我为什么再次打脸自己,停掉了本就是我考虑恶性建议其手术收进来的肺结节手术病例

2023-11-17 叶建明 叶建明说结节 发表于上海

为了病人的利益最大化,遭受的创伤最小化,自己否定自己又何妨?

前言:肺结节的手术与否,从影像上判断其良恶性并有无风险是极重要的依据。前些天有位同事认识的一位肺结节病友,先是同事拿影像二维码叫我看的,我觉得病灶是混合磨玻璃密度,邻近叶裂,并有叶间胸膜牵拉,随访持续存在,基本上考虑就是肺癌,鉴于位置不错,是该手术切除了的。于是同事就联系他朋友约好时间住院进来。我们也为其完善相关术前检查。但在靶扫描片子出来后,杭州市肿瘤医院胸外科团队一起阅片后,推翻了之前的判断,考虑大概率又是良性的,叫停其次日本要进行的手术,再次打脸我自己。这到底是什么原因让我们推翻自己这前判断呢?

简要病史:

检查发现左肺下叶结节一年许,没有明显呼吸道症状。

影像展示与分析:

平扫非薄层:

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病灶出现,位于左下叶背段,感觉略散,轮廓欠清。

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有星芒状毛刺,整体轮廓还是较清的。

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病灶不纯,有实性成分。

平扫薄层:

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病灶出现,叶间胸膜有牵拉。

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毛刺较为明显,也有磨玻璃成分。

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密度不均,部分区域呈片状磨玻璃。

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混合密度,叶间胸膜牵拉明显。

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血管征、毛刺征均明显,实性成分也明显,表面不平。

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此层基本实性密度伴有毛刺征。

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实性成分?还是血管?

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连续层面看有些像血管

影像初步印象:

这也是原先同事让我看的患者当地查的平扫CT类似的影像,总体上看,此灶是混合磨玻璃密度,有毛刺征与血管征,也有叶间胸膜牵拉,表面不平,密度不均。这种病灶恶性则基本上浸润性了,有较大风险。所以我建议其住院手术治疗。

靶重建图像展示:

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实性成分是血管?而且病灶怎么跨过叶间裂往上叶去?

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病灶轻松跨叶,病灶整体轮廓略糊。

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实性部分在下叶与叶间,磨玻璃部分在上叶且有移行过程。叶裂是有牵拉,但肿瘤哪有这么长的?

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病灶实性成分像血管,磨玻璃部分在上叶,毛刺偏长,瘤肺边界不太清。

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实性成分是血管延伸过去的,毛刺过长。

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血管延伸、磨玻璃边界欠清,毛刺较长,病灶非圆形或类圆形。

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实性成分显得较为模糊,明显跨叶裂。

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实性部分基本上是血管,当然该血管是异常的,正常怎么有血管走在叶间裂。

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磨玻璃成分片状,邻近胸膜略有增厚。桔色箭头示血管截面。

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密度最高的仍是血管吗吧?余磨玻璃散在,毛刺长。

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实性部分是血管,其余部分是长毛刺样。

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血管与长毛刺,磨玻璃部分呈片状。

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明显跨叶生长。

影像再考虑:

如果肿瘤没有道理轻易过界,磨玻璃部分长到上叶去;而下叶部分的实性成分却是与血管相连,由血管延伸过来的。而且病灶整体轮廓虽较清,但瘤肺边界显糊,毛刺过长,部分磨玻璃呈片状。假如确实是肺癌,那恶性程度应该不低,因为有这么粗的血管,且又跨过叶间裂生长。那么之前的影像是如何的呢?我们找到了去年的影像资料。若是肺癌并轻松跨叶生长,那必是恶性程度不低,应该一年来的话,进展较为明显才符合。

影像回顾:

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以上诸图是2022年12月份的,相关近一年。但我们发现病灶基本上没有明显变化进展。所以考虑此灶并非肿瘤性,而是血管畸形伴局部慢性炎与纤维增生。

手术暂停!

我们与患方沟通,并告诉他经过检查对比,之前的肺癌考虑欠周全,更多信息汇总后改变了看法,手术先不做,出院后间隔半年再复查下再说。基本上不考虑恶性了。

感悟:

为了病人的利益最大化,遭受的创伤最小化,自己否定自己又何妨?这不倒霉,这是实事求是。少开一个刀,少部分奖金,与病人利益受损,良性病灶接受手术切除来讲又算得了什么呢?虽然切了后告诉患者是良性,还好不是癌,同样是运气,但若术前经过综合分析、详细解读影像信息,推翻自己之前的判断虽要勇气,但仍值得!

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    2023-11-18 280376929 来自广东省

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    2023-11-18 Mongolian 来自内蒙古

    肺结节的手术与否,从影像上判断其良恶性并有无风险是极重要的依据。

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    2023-11-18 ms4000001539575937 来自湖北省

    学习

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    2023-11-18 仁术2023

    不错,学习了。

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    2023-11-18 仁术2021 来自吉林省

    不错,学习了。

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    2023-11-18 12a5fa56m21暂无昵称 来自河南省

    #期刊论坛#真的很实用。细节决定成败,为了病人利益最大化,受创最小化,是医者行医准则。有理有据,抽丝剥茧,甚是感激

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