缩短医生培养时间,学历不等于能力,对此你怎么看?

2023-03-06 网络 网络 发表于上海

培养一名医生最少需要5年本科、3年规培!而在这个人均医学硕博的时代,还需要再延长数年!

培养一名医生最少需要5年本科、3年规培!而在这个人均医学硕博的时代,还需要再延长数年!

在本次两会期间,中国科学院院士葛均波提出,“缩短医生培养时间,学历不代表能力”,受到不少医生同仁的共鸣,

但也有部分医生担心医学体系内容庞大,不仅有深厚的理论知识,还需要临床的长期实践,缩短医生培养周期,可能会造成

医疗水平的下降!

对此,你怎么看?

 

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    2023-03-08 烟雨人间 来自河北省

    医学本身是实践性很强的科学。学历仅是入职条件之一,怎么有缩短培养周期一说。

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    2023-03-07 黄颖琳 来自上海

    培养时间延长后,对学医的学生的家庭负担真的很大。提出这样的建议,我们是有认同感的。同时也说明了我们医院教育存在一定的弊端,因为大学过于着重理论知识,临床经验差,才有了后面的规培。所以如何能在大学把理论和实际很好的结合,这可能是减少年限的一个方向。对部分地区用下乡卡各种职称考试这种行为,也希望国家能够改善。对于医生的待遇,关怀和尊重,也希望能得到更大的肯定。放眼全世界,中国医生真的是个很廉价的劳动力。还有疫情过后各种发放补贴,取消夜班费,鼓励医务人员做副业来养活家庭等多个事件,真的寒了很多医务人员的心,也希望国家能切实的关注这些问题。

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    2023-03-07 chiyulongniao 来自黑龙江省

    那就干脆不用培养了。大学毕业直接上临床。😷没啥好建议就别提。医学是对人的。你以为培养屠夫呢?

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    2023-03-07 ms9000000751858271 来自青海省

    提高待遇是关键,缩短培养时间,患者去三甲医院一个隐形的原因,三甲医院医生学历高,学历虽然不和能力挂钩,但没学历大概率能力也高不了多少,博士虽然有水博,但理工类医学博士大概率都有两把刷子

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    2023-03-07 litao2022 来自上海

    很好的提议,但是不现实!各行学历都在往上走,三甲医院能看得上本科生吗?

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    2023-03-07 cscs 来自广东省

    先让我们得到应有的尊重吧!

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    2023-03-06 jycais 来自河南省

    别没事干了。提点现实的有用的建议吧。待遇不改、就医模式不改、能解决老百姓看病难的问题吗?我们培养的医学生,每年有多少人进入临床了?

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    2023-03-06 msdanni 来自上海

    不是缩不缩短的问题,是待遇太低

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  9. [GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2118228, encodeId=2aab211822856, content=医学本身是实践性很强的科学。学历仅是入职条件之一,怎么有缩短培养周期一说。, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=57, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=82495567902, createdName=烟雨人间, createdTime=Wed Mar 08 07:54:17 CST 2023, time=2023-03-08, status=1, ipAttribution=河北省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2118209, encodeId=5dd821182093b, content=培养时间延长后,对学医的学生的家庭负担真的很大。提出这样的建议,我们是有认同感的。同时也说明了我们医院教育存在一定的弊端,因为大学过于着重理论知识,临床经验差,才有了后面的规培。所以如何能在大学把理论和实际很好的结合,这可能是减少年限的一个方向。对部分地区用下乡卡各种职称考试这种行为,也希望国家能够改善。对于医生的待遇,关怀和尊重,也希望能得到更大的肯定。放眼全世界,中国医生真的是个很廉价的劳动力。还有疫情过后各种发放补贴,取消夜班费,鼓励医务人员做副业来养活家庭等多个事件,真的寒了很多医务人员的心,也希望国家能切实的关注这些问题。, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=53, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=a2995572762, createdName=黄颖琳, createdTime=Tue Mar 07 23:23:24 CST 2023, time=2023-03-07, status=1, ipAttribution=上海), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2118149, encodeId=32432118149cc, content=那就干脆不用培养了。大学毕业直接上临床。😷没啥好建议就别提。医学是对人的。你以为培养屠夫呢?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=33, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=, createdBy=de111581737, createdName=chiyulongniao, createdTime=Tue Mar 07 16:56:19 CST 2023, time=2023-03-07, status=1, ipAttribution=黑龙江省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2118139, encodeId=27db2118139a2, content=提高待遇是关键,缩短培养时间,患者去三甲医院一个隐形的原因,三甲医院医生学历高,学历虽然不和能力挂钩,但没学历大概率能力也高不了多少,博士虽然有水博,但理工类医学博士大概率都有两把刷子, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=45, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=f0488334645, createdName=ms9000000751858271, createdTime=Tue Mar 07 16:06:07 CST 2023, time=2023-03-07, status=1, ipAttribution=青海省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2118127, encodeId=edd8211812e14, content=很好的提议,但是不现实!各行学历都在往上走,三甲医院能看得上本科生吗?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=44, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=/v1.0.0/img/user_icon.png, createdBy=1ff65466529, createdName=litao2022, createdTime=Tue Mar 07 15:13:11 CST 2023, time=2023-03-07, status=1, ipAttribution=上海), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2118040, encodeId=6dad2118040f4, content=先让我们得到应有的尊重吧!, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=45, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=https://img.medsci.cn/20201208/af76c3dece7248f2b297751d57470291/d45c15338e034c3f847da0bca70bfa4d.jpg, createdBy=3cfe1656094, createdName=cscs, createdTime=Tue Mar 07 07:26:55 CST 2023, time=2023-03-07, status=1, ipAttribution=广东省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2118007, encodeId=116f211800e8e, content=别没事干了。提点现实的有用的建议吧。待遇不改、就医模式不改、能解决老百姓看病难的问题吗?我们培养的医学生,每年有多少人进入临床了?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=49, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=, createdBy=71891325322, createdName=jycais, createdTime=Mon Mar 06 21:32:10 CST 2023, time=2023-03-06, status=1, ipAttribution=河南省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2118003, encodeId=8bac211800396, content=不是缩不缩短的问题,是待遇太低, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=31, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=https://img.medsci.cn/202405/3e2aa1c3a6f246b5afa05a93ec2fefcd-lcGwS9MOWEjx.jpg, createdBy=3ede8538692, createdName=msdanni, createdTime=Mon Mar 06 21:04:20 CST 2023, time=2023-03-06, status=1, ipAttribution=上海), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2117973, encodeId=f5fe211e97356, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=16c61054e284' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#缩短医生培养时间,学历不等于能力对此怎么看?#</a> , beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=37, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=105472, encryptionId=16c61054e284, topicName=缩短医生培养时间,学历不等于能力对此怎么看?)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=https://img.medsci.cn/202405/3e2aa1c3a6f246b5afa05a93ec2fefcd-lcGwS9MOWEjx.jpg, createdBy=3ede8538692, createdName=msdanni, createdTime=Mon Mar 06 19:14:18 CST 2023, time=2023-03-06, status=1, ipAttribution=上海)]