国家叫停违规过敏原检测 仍有医院不整改

2017-12-25 佚名 央广网

记者调查发现,仍有不少医院在违规使用已叫停的仪器检测过敏原,更有医生说出了“大实话”,“基层查的没那么严”。

据中国之声《新闻晚高峰》报道,今年早些时候,中国之声独家报道了“生物物理治疗仪检测过敏原被指不靠谱”的新闻,记者调查发现,从德国引进的百康、摩拉两款仪器,被各大医院广泛用于过敏原检测。但有国外论文认为,此类仪器不靠谱,甚至有论文称该技术是“伪科学”。

报道播出后,国家食药总局、国家卫计委下发文件,要求禁止此类仪器检测过敏原,并对两种产品的注册申请予以驳回,这意味着,新生产的此类仪器无法在国内销售。但记者调查发现,仍有不少医院在违规使用此类仪器检测过敏原,更有医生说出了“大实话”,“基层查的没那么严”。

在报道播出后,国家食药总局对报道中所提到的“百康、摩拉生物物理治疗仪”违规用于过敏原检测一事进行排查,发现对此类产品的审批范围,仅限于“临床用于患者过敏性疾病的辅助治疗”,并没有批准其用于过敏原检测等用途,经监管部门核实,部分医疗机构存在将该类产品超范围使用的情况。国家卫计委要求,不得将仪器用于违规用途。

但是据记者调查,全国各地仍有多地医院将此类仪器违规用于过敏原检测。记者以患者身份来到北京一家民营医院,发现他们仍在使用此类仪器检测过敏原,并给记者做了全套检测。

检测之后,记者突然发现自己对鱼、花生甚至糖精都过敏了,记者表示自己对这些并没有过敏症状,这位医生说,检测说明即将会出现过敏。目前“生物物理治疗”技术不打针不吃药,快速得出结果,一般都让病人做。

医院:不能喝酒,所有鱼不能吃,花生不能吃,牛肉不能吃,木耳这些。

记者:但我之前这些也没事。

医院:这一段时间不能吃。

记者:什么叫这一段时间?

医院:这个不是终生不变的。

记者:好像我最近喝酒、吃鱼也没事。

医院:注意一下。

记者:这检测靠谱吗?

医院:还可以,贴那个得48小时,并且有的人会起泡,会过敏很严重,一般不做那个。

不仅是在北京,记者调查发现,在上海、吉林、山东等地也有不少医院仍在使用此类仪器检测过敏。

为什么在国家下文之后,仍有医院不遵守规矩?而且原始给仪器批准的“过敏疾病辅助治疗”,究竟是什么?有效吗?生厂商之一的摩拉公司中国代理商总经理姜庆峰在被记者问到这一问题时,一时间也答不上来,建议记者去网上找找,或者找用过的专家问问。

记者通过百度搜索“过敏”+“辅助治疗”等关键词,并没有发现对“过敏性疾病辅助治疗”的解释。

在姜庆峰的介绍下,记者联系到了自称用过此类仪器且效果非常好的专家——哈尔滨医科大学第四附属医院耳鼻喉科主任徐平,但是在采访中,徐平却把记者当做了设备生产商的人,道出了背后的“秘密”,国家不让用此类产品做过敏原检测了,他们还有别的办法,这个辅助治疗还是治疗,其实都由他们灵活掌握,仪器依旧可以用。

记者:国家说不让做过敏原检测了。

徐平:那你做治疗不就完了。

记者:辅助治疗?

徐平:啥叫为主,啥叫为辅,这个灵活掌握,但是你们这得做工作,这可以改变。

徐平说,虽然国家要求禁止生物物理治疗仪做过敏原检测,但到了基层都不严格执行。

记者:您的医院接到上级的通知了么?

徐平:没事,顶多把业务停了。到基层没那么严格执行,国家说说去吧,根本没有道理的事情。

徐平主任还建议,厂商要多做工作,让被取消的注册证恢复,否则以后就没得用了。“新设备能不能办到证就是你们的问题了,我们老设备有证一直用到坏就完事了,新设备你想做工作,你否了我们将来买啥,以后就没有用的了。”

对于“生物物理治疗”、“生物共振”理论,长期从事过敏疾病治疗的北京大学第一医院皮肤科主任医师刘玲玲告诉记者,她从业多年,相关文献看过很多,如果该技术真的颠覆了过敏领域基础理论,应该会有很多相关研究文献,但有关该技术的文献很少。循证医学时代,药物和疗法是否有效,要拿证据、拿实验数据说话。“在临床上说有用或者更先进,一般都是和经典的进行比较,有优势才有上市的价值,如果和它平行都不一定有价值,更别说这种说不清道理的。”

刘玲玲告诉记者,她在诊疗中也看到患者曾经拿着此类仪器的检测结果来进行咨询,发现检测结果不稳定。甚至可能会造成误诊。“一个人比如牛奶过敏,今天查的和之前查的要一致才行,不能说今天有明天没有,你用了这样的仪器检查可能不去用正规仪器了,占用了医疗资源,让病人花了钱却不能解决问题甚至误导病人。”

国家严令禁止,到了基层却被某些医生坦言“不严格执行”还冠上了“灵活掌握”的帽子。在病人生命健康面前,某些医生向记者说的“大实话”,值得深思。

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    henhao

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    2017-12-25 明月清辉

    谢谢分享.学习了

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