白衣山猫:三明医改真的成功吗?看看三明人的评论

2015-12-16 白衣山猫 白衣山猫微博

我是医生(@白衣山猫),我非常迫切地希望医改能够成功。昨晚央视大篇章报道了三明医改,说得人热血沸腾,好像找到了中国医改的方向。收到@微博小秘书 私信,让我谈谈三明医改的看法。 第一篇网友微博发出后,收到了好多三明网友的评论,让我看到了和央视新闻部一样的看法。后来,我干脆又发了一条调查的微博,让大家来谈谈,三明本地人如何看待三明的医改。 这篇文章,所有观点来自三明网友的留言评

我是医生(@白衣山猫),我非常迫切地希望医改能够成功。昨晚央视大篇章报道了三明医改,说得人热血沸腾,好像找到了中国医改的方向。收到@微博小秘书 私信,让我谈谈三明医改的看法。

第一篇网友微博发出后,收到了好多三明网友的评论,让我看到了和央视新闻部一样的看法。后来,我干脆又发了一条调查的微博,让大家来谈谈,三明本地人如何看待三明的医改。

这篇文章,所有观点来自三明网友的留言评论和私信。这篇文章的有些观点,肯定会让三明官方有些难堪,请谅解。值此三明经验向全国推广之际,我们医生群体作为医改最核心的当事人群,需要说出我们自己的声音。希望有官员能够看到这篇文章。任何不考虑医生利益和意见的医改,都不可能取得成功。

首先,三明的药品价格是怎么降下来的?央视报道中,介绍了药品的降价,是砍掉了药品流通领域里面的利润。

央视报道中,介绍到: 

“医院常用药奥美拉唑钠,就由改革前的256元下降到6.9元,下降幅度高达37倍。药品费用大幅度下降、医务人员收入显著上升,医保基金从亏损转为盈余,初步实现了患者、医院、医生和政府多方共赢。”

这些药品,在三明的医生眼里是怎么样的呢?下面是一个网友医生的介绍:   
大家看明白了吧,药品虽然是同一个药品,可是纯度,疗效完全不一样。药品是用来治病的,静脉炎、过敏,这些都是因为生产工艺偷工减料的问题,导致药品纯度不够引起的。要想达到一定的药品纯度,加大工艺流程,成本就会增加。一分钱一分货,在药品领域,从来都不是空话。药品不良反应可是要人命的啊。

三明的不是医生的普通网友又怎么来看待三明的药品降价问题的呢?普通网友的切身体会:没药了!

其次,真如新闻里那位医生介绍的那样,三明的医生都拿到了10万到20万的年薪了吗?这么好的待遇,福建三明离我家不远我都想去投奔那些医院了。 

也就是说,很多医生别说年薪十万,一半也拿不到。这点,我收到47条私信,全部是这个观点。

待遇不好,医生会怎么办?  

看明白了吗?三明的好多医生跑掉了,有些部门用了手段,不让他们走,然后医生们在猜想医院三明时候关门!医生希望自己的医院关门大吉,这是什么事情啊!  三明另外一位医生网友说,走了医生很多。

医生都快走光了。

上面是三明的医生说医生跑光了,那么,三明的病人是怎么看三明的医生的呢?  这位病人说:一张医保卡就能够看病了,嗯,医生真的都跑光了!

这是另外一位三明的病人说的话。

没有了医生,三明的卫生行政部门怎么办?  

连还没有毕业的医学生都知道怎么回事,我看三明怎么招得到医生!

医生不满意,三明的老百姓,满意了吗?   去三明调查过得卫计委官员真的会不知道吗?   再来个网友的总结性发言吧。任何医改,都绕不过医护人员,病人和药品生产企业三者之间的权益。

从网友的评论(还有很多私信,也是类似内容,我就不晒出来了,私信只是印证这些评论对不对的依据。)里我看到了,对于三明医改,三明的医生很不满意,纷纷用脚投票;三明的药品也经常断供而且经常出现质量问题;三明的老百姓也不满意。那么三明的医改,谁满意了,谁得益了?难道是药品生产企业?

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    2016-02-19 lyh994

    怎么感觉乱乱的

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    2015-12-26 hixiaoluo

    好文章,值得看。

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    2015-12-18 tidiq
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    2015-12-17 xi.xiong

    一切以控费为目标的医改都是耍流氓。

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    2015-12-17 yushenfengzhan

    相信医生都知道,所谓的医保都是医院自己报,政府根本不拿钱,眉山市某医院的医保涨已经高达10亿,也没见政府拿一分钱,果然是穷啥不能穷政府呀

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    2015-12-17 hbjxgrp1213

    看来央视新闻没调研就发言了!让全国的医生感觉央视也不可靠!

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    2015-12-16 老段

    分配

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    2015-12-16 lovetcm

    一切以控费为目标的医改都是耍流氓。

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    2015-12-16 lovetcm

    一切以控费为目标的医改都是耍流氓。

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