你应该告诉患者你不精于此项手术吗?

2016-07-15 MedSci MedSci原创

来自纽约大学(Nyu)医学中心和医学伦理部门的Art Caplan教授在接受Medscape采访时提到了这个问题。以下为采访内容。 我之前的一个学生曾经问过我一个问题,在我脑海中不断回想起。我没有谈过这个问题,但我认为这问题值得讨论。问题是:当你没有经常或者近期没做过手术时要如何跟患者说?你要跟他们分享多少你的经历水平?问我问题的学生,并不缺乏自信,但不管怎么说,如果说:"这是我第一次做X"

来自纽约大学(Nyu)医学中心和医学伦理部门的Art Caplan教授在接受Medscape采访时提到了这个问题。以下为采访内容。

我之前的一个学生曾经问过我一个问题,在我脑海中不断回想起。我没有谈过这个问题,但我认为这问题值得讨论。问题是:当你没有经常或者近期没做过手术时要如何跟患者说?你要跟他们分享多少你的经历水平?问我问题的学生,并不缺乏自信,但不管怎么说,如果说:"这是我第一次做X",病人就会紧张,就想询问其他的医生。

这有两个例子 ,从道德上来说,没有经验的医生初次在患者身上做手术是合理的。

在很多情况下,学生——年轻人在做这些事情时是在接受训练。除非患者已经进入了手术室,他们知道自己处于教学医院可以自愿选择是否接受这样的情况。

同样,初次做手术或想更好的练习手术时,通常有专家的监管。所有参加手术的人员都清楚的知道要如何进行手术。你也许能得到最新版和最好的手术教学。这是优势,即使你没有经验丰富的医生那般灵巧和熟练,但很多人都关注着你 ,所以你也提供了更高质量的护理,因为教学环境的本质。

在一些情况下,如果患者询问了一些你没做好准备的事 ,那退下来就很重要了。我看到过一个情况,一个名人患者或非常富有的患者说:"我希望主任给我做手术"。在一个病例中,主任近期都没有做手术,一直在处理很多管理工作。这也符合那种情况,"我不是做这个手术的最佳人选。我可能没有在一线每天都做手术的医生做得好。我会在手术室,我会坐在一旁,但你不会真的需要我来做手术。"

我可以想象这种情况,对手术生疏是一个不提供特殊干预的理由,直到技能水平回到之前,可能需要观察专家做手术并再次慢慢的学习,就像一开始学习一样。总而言之,首次进行手术在道德上是合理的,因为有人监管。然而,如果你有段时间没有做手术的话,那就不好冒险了。可能需要重新接受锻炼以给出可能的最好的治疗。

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    2016-10-09 1e10c84am36(暂无匿称)

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    2016-09-16 1e10c84am36(暂无匿称)

    不错哦,会学到很多

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    2016-09-05 李东泽

    很好,不错,以后会多学习

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    2016-07-24 huangzh898

    说起来容易做到难出!

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    2016-07-17 1dd8c52fm63(暂无匿称)

    可能不会!

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    2016-07-16 flysky120

    先学习手术技术吧

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    2016-07-15 医路开来

    先学好技术,在做手术。

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    谦虚和学习是成功的源泉

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