黄国英:医院不能只“画饼”,年轻人会等不及……

2017-06-11 丹萌 医学界服务站

“这一代年轻医生很聪明,接触的资讯也比我们那时候多多了,我们不能老怪年轻人不好,也要反思自己培养的问题,要给他们提供更符合现在年轻人特点的工作环境。”

复旦大学附属儿科医院是国内数一数二的儿科专科医院,这里培养了培养了数不清的儿科大家。院长黄国英说,早在住院医师规范化培训制度在全国推广之前的很多年,他们就有了自己的培养体系。

“我们的医学教育通常分成院校教育、毕业后教育和继续教育,毕业后教育就包括规培、研究生等等,这个阶段对培养一个合格的医生是不可缺少的。”黄国英说。

他和《医学界》聊了聊儿科规培的现状,以及,医生应当如何在年轻时就“脱颖而出”。

《医学界》:现在很多地方都在提“儿科医生荒”,年轻人不爱报儿科,来了儿科的也常常留不住,您是否观察到这样的现象?

黄国英:现在的儿科医生压力现在确实很大,一是来自工作的压力,二是来自社会环境的压力,所以会有一批人望而却步。但是就我们医院来说,从前几年的情况来看,不是说没人来报儿科,报还是很多人报,但是少有人优先报儿科,这就存在一个问题,就是对于优质毕业生,我们选择的余地较小。

不过不排除在综合医院社区医院,招不到人,年轻人不愿意去,一方面他觉得压力大,待遇又不好,另一方面,他觉得自己有其他机会,现在的人都能双向选择。

《医学界》:现在很多院校本科重开了儿科学专业,这是否能缓解一部分儿科梯队的压力?

黄国英:我个人觉得这不是解决问题的根本办法。一是因为没法培养那么多人,第二点,你没法保证他们一定到社区或者去综合医院。唯一的好处是这些从高中毕业就定了儿科方向的,以后的生源质量可能会好一些,至于最后留得住留不住,那还得看各方面配套措施是否到位。

我们医院在这方面是有发言权的,原来有儿科系的时候,进我们医院的人是一半儿科系的一半医学系的,我们曾经分析了15年的走向,最后,并不是医学系的人就跑得特别多,儿科系的人留得特别多,两者差不多的,该走的都走了,该留的,医学系他也留。

要解决儿科医生少的问题,院校培养可能是一个方面,我觉得规培也是一个关键,怎么能让更多的医学系毕业生也来选择儿科,并对这里产生归属感,这是亟需思考的问题。

《医学界》:关于如何留住儿科医生,您有什么建议?

黄国英:上海曾经做过一个调查,2015年一年,儿科医生的流失大概是10%,我们还是很欣慰,我们医院的流失率只有2%多一点,这样的流失率还是很合理的,属于正常流动。

至于怎么留住招进来的人,我想起马云曾经讲过,你要让人家跟着你干,要么你给他很好的待遇,要么你让他觉得很有奔头,要么他非常喜欢你。

回到儿科,道理是一样的。首先,你要给他们创造好的工作和学习环境,待遇上至少跟同行比,要过得去,让他们能感受到自己受到重视;

第二,在我们医院的医生,本身就很有“奔头”,他们的职业生涯规划很完整,住培、专培、主治、副主任、主任医师,前景广阔,他们就会对事业有长久的追求;

还有就是我们要尽可能营造一个比较和谐的氛围,让大家都觉得上班开心,这很重要。现在有些人说自己“不怕苦不怕累,就怕上班看到某个人”,那肯定是环境让人不舒服,不舒服他就会走。

作为院长,你不能只是告诉他们“你只要努力,将来一定能坐到什么位置”,有时候他们会等不及的,我们要在力所能及的情况下,该给他们的都给到他们。

这一代年轻医生很聪明,接触的资讯也比我们那时候多多了,我们不能老怪年轻人不好,也要反思自己培养的问题,要给他们提供更符合现在年轻人特点的工作环境。

《医学界》:听说您和其他儿科专家最近出了一本《住院医师规范化培训儿科示范案例》,这本书有怎样的特点和意义?



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黄国英:是的。我以前也编过案例书,但是对象不一样,结构这么清楚的、专门针对住院医生的书,这是第一本。

这是发动了我们全市儿科专家出的一本规培参考书。我们要求让每个专家想想,他们当住院医的时候最想看什么,所以写出来的东西非常贴近年轻医生的临床需求。

另外这里面的案例都是精挑细选的,非常有特色。我们以问题为导向,抛出案例,层层深入,年轻医生看病要先会诊断、鉴别、证实,而后进行治疗、管理病人,在这期间有哪些注意事项,都是非常现实的问题,这本书基本反映了我们临床上的真实感觉。

这本书凝结了100个病例,涵盖了儿科所有系统、如果你说,读完这本书,他们就能成为一个好医生,这是不可能的,但是读透这些案例以后,我们希望他们能举一反三,形成思维的习惯,不管是哪个系统的疾病,临床思维都是相通的,形成习惯以后就不容易出差错。

另外不仅是年轻的住院医,基层医院、社区医院医生也可以参考这本书,事实上任何一级医生都可以看,我们高年资医生有时候也会再复习一下,这就是医学的继续教育。所谓继续教育,除了掌握新的知识、理论、技术,也要温故知新。

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    学习了谢谢分享。

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    学习了谢谢分享。

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    学习了。。。。。。。。。

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    2017-06-12 明月清辉

    谢谢分享,学习了

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