上海95岁中科院院士坚持出诊开刀 反对机器人手术

2016-12-18 佚名 澎湃新闻

<p class="text">“在中国看病难、看病贵,对于肝癌病人来说更难,作为一名院长、一名医生,我的职责是为病人健康做贡献,帮病人多省钱。”12月17日,第九届吴孟超医学奖颁奖典礼在沪举行。95岁高龄的中国科学院院士、上海第二军医大学东方肝胆外科医院院长吴孟超在接受澎湃新闻采访时表示,目前仍然无法放弃医生这项工作,仍然放不下手术刀。他坚持每周看一次门诊,常常帮病人加号,为一些疑难的肝癌患者开刀,尽可能地帮病人节省检查费用和手术开销。</p><p class="text">对于当前医学科技尤其是医疗机器人的发展,吴孟超认为,尽管科技在进步,但检查费用、耗材费用、手术费用也在逐年增长,而医学的进步最重要在于医生的医术,医生应该靠手术技能为患者的健康做贡献,用最简单、最有效的办法帮病人看病。</p><p align="center"><img src="http://inews.gtimg.com/newsapp_match/0/921877620/0" style="display:block;" width="100%"></p><p class="text">图片说明:吴孟超院士

“在中国看病难、看病贵,对于肝癌病人来说更难,作为一名院长、一名医生,我的职责是为病人健康做贡献,帮病人多省钱。”12月17日,第九届吴孟超医学奖颁奖典礼在沪举行。95岁高龄的中国科学院院士、上海第二军医大学东方肝胆外科医院院长吴孟超在接受澎湃新闻采访时表示,目前仍然无法放弃医生这项工作,仍然放不下手术刀。他坚持每周看一次门诊,常常帮病人加号,为一些疑难的肝癌患者开刀,尽可能地帮病人节省检查费用和手术开销。

对于当前医学科技尤其是医疗机器人的发展,吴孟超认为,尽管科技在进步,但检查费用、耗材费用、手术费用也在逐年增长,而医学的进步最重要在于医生的医术,医生应该靠手术技能为患者的健康做贡献,用最简单、最有效的办法帮病人看病。

图片说明:吴孟超院士近照

95岁高龄坚持看门诊、开刀

1922年出生的吴孟超是中国肝胆外科主要奠基人和开拓者,他从上世纪50年代起就致力于肝脏外科研究,1963年完成了中国首例肝癌切除手术,同时提出肝硬化肝癌的局部根治性切除、肝癌综合治疗等理念,获得2015年国家最高科学技术奖。

如今95岁高龄的吴孟超依然活跃在门诊室和手术台,他告诉澎湃新闻记者,我国是全球肝癌发病率最高和病死数最多的国家,全球每年有超过50万人罹患肝癌,其中一半以上在中国。吴孟超说,自己的病人来自全国各地,很多是为了治病几乎跑遍了全中国,也有为了看病辗转国内外的。他认为,“只要一个人活着身体好,就要继续工作,作为一名医生,我拥有技术就更应该一辈子服务病人。”

吴孟超告诉澎湃新闻记者,自己每天的生活很规律也很健康,“每天上午6点半起床,8点上班,中午休息1-2个小时,下午继续上班,晚上9点睡觉。”他并不习惯退休养老、每天散步这样悠闲的日子。每周二上午他仍然会出门诊,但出于年龄和身体状况考虑,医院将他的门诊限号在5-6人,最多不超过7人,但他常常会要求多看几个病人,帮等候在门口的病人加号,“他们都是来自全国各地的病人,有些甚至大老远从东北这些地方跑来看,其他地方医院都看遍了,在这里等门诊就等上1-2周,看病很难,既然来了就要帮他们看完。”

“中国还是个发展中国家,仍然有不少贫穷的地方,而肝癌这种疾病,越穷的地方越高发,看病难、看病贵对肝癌患者来说是一个很突出的问题。”

在门诊中,吴孟超常常帮一些病人免费咨询,一旦条件符合便收治入院,他也时常会帮一些疑难的患者开刀,很多人赞叹这是奇迹,95岁的他开刀时手指依然灵巧、精准,但也有不少人劝他“这么大年纪,该安享晚年了,何苦还要手术”。对此,吴孟超表示:“这是一种职业习惯,只要能拿动手术刀,我就会站在手术台上,但这是在身体允许的情况下,我决不会拿病人的生命逞强。”

图片说明:2016年8月底,吴孟超院士为一名肝癌患者做肝切除手术,如今95岁的他仍然每周坚持出门诊,帮患者开刀。

反对高级药物和机器人手术,重视医术

对于当前医学科技尤其是医疗机器人的发展,吴孟超认为,尽管科技在进步,但检查费用、耗材费用、手术费用等也在逐年增长,机器人手术比传统手术昂贵,这类新技术仍然无法给病人带来真正的帮助,他同时反对高级药物,甚至反对病人在医院一次又一次重复做一系列检查。

在肝癌治疗现状下,吴孟超依然主张,能手术切除的尽量选择切除手术,如果不能切除的再考虑别的一些非根治性治疗手段,如放射治疗、分子靶向治疗等。

就在2天前,一名肝癌病人找吴孟超看病,说是在此之前已经跑遍全国花了数十万元在介入、放射等一系列治疗上,但许多医院都拒绝将其收治入院。这名病人还在朋友的建议下去美国看病,但最终仍然回到了上海。吴孟超说,自己见不得病人被病痛所折磨的样子,所以还是将其收治进入病房,通过手术足足切下3斤重的肿瘤。目前病人健康状况逐渐转好,吴孟超由衷地感到欣慰。

吴孟超表示,医学的进步最重要在于医生的医术,医生应该靠手术技能为患者的健康做贡献,用最简单、最有效的办法帮病人看病,尽量不增加病人的经济负担。

“从全国来看,一次肝癌手术贵的超过5万甚至更多,但在我这里最便宜的不过3万,最多也就在4-5万,基本不会超过5万。”吴孟超表示,作为一名医生,职责是要为病人健康做贡献的同时,还要对病人节约,帮病人多省钱,这才是最重要的。

如今,吴孟超拥有了多名大咖学生,包括1名工程院院士、近20名中国青年科学家、***奖励计划特聘教授、上海市科技精英等。 “中国医学的进步与发展在于年轻的一代,设立医学奖是为了更多地鼓励年轻医生,不仅仅在临床给病人帮助,今后还要更多地开展科研,推动我国肝脏外科整体水平的提高,降低肝癌的发病率和死亡率。”吴孟超说。

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    2016-12-20 小~龙

    老先生人和技术值得佩服,不过这种思想就有点落后了,95岁上台就能显示爱岗敬业?该安享万年就不要遭罪,肝癌很多都没必要切。

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    2016-12-18 周洁tray

    老先生很厉害,不过科技的发展最终也是帮助人类的,机器人的信息处理能力和学习能力在呈指数级的增长,我还是很期待未来的智能医疗。

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    2016-12-18 老廖

    后继无人吗,95上手术

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