“坠井”从救援到纷争,是什么让闹剧出现?

2016-11-15 陈宏勋 医学界

近日,河北落井儿童营救事件引发广泛关注,尤其是医疗自媒体斥责孩童家属打骂医务人员行为,与新京报网刊《“坠井男童”家属首发声:网上信息皆为谣传》及《先别急着给坠井儿童家属扣医闹帽子》等观点形成鲜明对比。 在两篇文章各持自己观点下,我们采用澎湃、北青报等媒体报道和多方信源先将事件还原:“在救援现场医生宣布男童死亡,救护车要将其送到火葬场后,家属方面发现后阻止,坚称孩子仍有呼吸,要拉到医院抢救

近日,河北落井儿童营救事件引发广泛关注,尤其是医疗自媒体斥责孩童家属打骂医务人员行为,与新京报网刊《“坠井男童”家属首发声:网上信息皆为谣传》及《先别急着给坠井儿童家属扣医闹帽子》等观点形成鲜明对比。 

在两篇文章各持自己观点下,我们采用澎湃、北青报等媒体报道和多方信源先将事件还原:“在救援现场医生宣布男童死亡,救护车要将其送到火葬场后,家属方面发现后阻止,坚称孩子仍有呼吸,要拉到医院抢救,抢救仍无效后对120司机打骂。家属有过激行为,是不争事实。” 

可以确定冲突焦点是“救护车运死亡男童去火葬场,家属说孩子有呼吸没死,要拉去医院”,这时,我们不禁对抢救现场的处理程序产生如下的疑问:

1、坠井儿童究竟是在何时被判定死亡?上救护车前还是后?

据公开报道,“现场医务人员描述,聪聪被发现时已停止呼吸,确认死亡”,而同一篇文章后面又写到“现场救援人员确认,坠井男童聪聪已死亡”。 

报道中有个细节很值得关注,“11月10日晚10点56分,蠡县坠井男童聪聪,在距离地面42米的井底被发现。全身蜡黄的他,随即被送上救护车,一路呼啸向西。现场救援人员矗立,村民静默、让路,现场参与救援的百辆汽车、救援设备鸣笛致意。” 

如果报道真实,这说明上救护车时,孩子已经确认死亡! 

备注:若在此有持续的争议,可公开现场的院前医疗记录文书,检视死亡判定的流程合理否。

2、 若判定死亡,家属有无得到死亡通知,是何人向坠井儿童家属宣布的?

据公开报道,昨晚11时许,被困井底107小时后,救援人员在40多米深的井底发现聪聪。现场医务人员描述,聪聪被发现时已停止呼吸,确认死亡。蠡县政府发布《关于营救蠡县鲍墟乡中孟尝村落井儿童工作有关情况的通报》,称其无生命体征。

当地政府是否在现场直接向家属宣布了坠井孩童死亡的事实?我们不得而知。

这是冲突的导火索1,家属不认可死亡!

3、 若确认孩童死亡,指派120救护车运送孩童尸体合理吗?

《救护车管理办法》中的第一条和第四条两条明确了救护车的使用:

第一条:为加强救护车之使用管理,迅速救护或运送病人,提升救护品质。

第四条写出了救护车的五项用途:

1.救护危急病人

2.灾害救护

3.空袭救护

4.运送转诊病人

5. 依实际需要兼作紧急运送、巡回医疗、防疫措施之用。其中未确定可转运尸体。  

民事法[1993]2号,《关于尸体运输管理的若干规定》第二条的规定,尸体的运送,除特殊情况外,必须由殡仪馆承办,任何单位和个人不得擅自承办。 

营救100个小时,未发现生命迹象,营救指挥者的预案只有急救没有死亡准备吗?而此情况是否该征用120急救车运送尸体?

这是冲突导火索2:选择运送孩童尸体车辆的合理性!

4. 救援指挥部门是否在孩童发现后,就交给了120急救车和医护人员做善后的处理,是否太简单行事了?

善后的跟进,应该包含对孩童家属的心理干预和行为的疏导。而这绝对不仅仅是医务工作者的任务,但目前报道并没有提到其他人员做了相关事务。

事情的经过可以说明一点,120救护车司机和医护人员承载了家属情绪和行为的压力,导致了救援者落得被人身攻击的结局。 

这是冲突导火索3,孩童出井后的处理缺乏跟进! 

一个事件如此戏剧性的演变,出乎所有人的预料。事件既然发生,政府、民众,特别是媒体,应在客观事实的基础上给予真实、准确的报道,对于专业的问题做深入延续性的追踪,是非曲直,社会、民众自有判断!  

事件的实质是为何会出现“闹”,怎么形成了“闹剧”。

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    2016-11-16 上邪zyy

    悲哀呀!

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    2016-11-15 Johnson_zhangdr

    说的很有道理,什么事情都要拿出几套可能的预案来。

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    2016-11-15 youyimu

    分析的很细致

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    2016-11-15 大旺旺

    学习了啊

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    2016-11-15 大旺旺

    学习了啊

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