话题:医生被要求分绩效给规培生,带教反而还被扣绩效,这样安排合理吗?

2023-11-14 网络 网络 发表于上海

在医疗行业中,关于医生被要求将部分绩效分配给规培生的问题,我想大家应该都不陌生吧!大家在工作中有遇到过吗?今天就让我们跟随下面老师的分享来一起讨论一下这个话题吧!

在医疗行业中,关于医生被要求将部分绩效分配给规培生的问题,我想大家应该都不陌生吧!大家在工作中有遇到过吗?今天就让我们跟随下面老师的分享来一起讨论一下这个话题吧!

一位老师分享说他们医院发布的新规定,如下:

规定轮转科室需要给规培医生分一点绩效,但是这部分绩效要从带教老师的科室绩效里面扣除,也就要求带教给规培医生分绩效,这导致很多带教们都不想带学生了。”

同时:“他觉得他带规培生,不给他带教费,还要他绩效?没有这个道理,觉得不合理”。

这样看来,这是相当于医院让一个员工给另一个员工发工资!基本上很多人应该都不会同意吧?

因此私下里小助手也咨询了一些老师,大家表示:“日常他们私下还是会向规培生表示一下的,但是上升到分绩效的层面是不应该的,可能会滋生医生与规培生的矛盾。

对于带教规培反被扣绩效这事大家怎么看?医院这样安排合理吗?如果是你还会继续带教吗?

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    2023-12-31 1811e8ec13m 来自吉林省

    不合理

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style='color:#2F92EE;'>#插入话题#</a> 大家说的都很好,但是怎样才能做好呢?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=26, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=103958, encryptionId=a27c1039589a, topicName=插入话题)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=ede62857934, createdName=4031828, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 23:21:13 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=河南省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168622, encodeId=0be9216862241, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 规培生应该有绩效,因为他们创造价值了,但是这个绩效不应该由医生个人买单。从来没听说过院长从自己兜里给副院长拿钱,也没听说过主任从自己兜里给副主任拿钱,都是一样的道理。, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=36, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=2d114843943, createdName=1013100771, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 10:15:41 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=山东省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168497, encodeId=a376216849e75, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 如果规培生很认真,确实是有心来学习,同时完成我给安排的任务,哪怕做的不到位,知错能改,我是很愿意分一部分绩效给他们的;就怕有些人是来混规培证的,交给他们的任务比我自己做还需要更长的修改时间,甚至消极怠工,经常不见人,那就是另一说了。另外,医院也是有机制的,带教老师是有一定带教费的,这是对老师辛苦带教的肯定,也能一定程度上提高老师的带教积极性。, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=30, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=f21b6567958, createdName=ms8000002096420751, createdTime=Tue Nov 14 18:08:46 CST 2023, time=2023-11-14, status=1, ipAttribution=山东省)]
    2023-11-24 4031828 来自河南省

    #插入话题# 每个地方情况不一样,不能一概而论。

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    2023-11-14 ms5000000820690942 来自广西

    我们这里90%以上的规培生只要有证有处方权都会正常排班,和科室医生一样干活,担任住院部一线医生独立管床,收病人入院,开医嘱,医患沟通,各种临床操作能做的都做,上夜班,就算是还没拿到处方权的,平日里也是会安排很多操作和治疗的,活不可能少,分点绩效不应该吗?

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[GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2178436, encodeId=847a21e84367e, content=不合理, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=16, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=, createdBy=c3e82037459, createdName=1811e8ec13m, createdTime=Sun Dec 31 23:10:27 CST 2023, time=2023-12-31, status=1, ipAttribution=吉林省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2170819, encodeId=4fdd21e0819e8, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=a27c1039589a' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#插入话题#</a> 每个地方情况不一样,不能一概而论。, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=28, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=103958, encryptionId=a27c1039589a, topicName=插入话题)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=ede62857934, createdName=4031828, createdTime=Fri Nov 24 20:43:02 CST 2023, time=2023-11-24, status=1, ipAttribution=河南省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168491, encodeId=c787216849121, content=我们这里90%以上的规培生只要有证有处方权都会正常排班,和科室医生一样干活,担任住院部一线医生独立管床,收病人入院,开医嘱,医患沟通,各种临床操作能做的都做,上夜班,就算是还没拿到处方权的,平日里也是会安排很多操作和治疗的,活不可能少,分点绩效不应该吗?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=26, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=04555692582, createdName=ms5000000820690942, createdTime=Tue Nov 14 17:34:59 CST 2023, time=2023-11-14, status=1, ipAttribution=广西), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168493, encodeId=bd5a2168493ed, content=首先,没有这么多的规培生、实习生帮忙写病历开医嘱换药操作和跑腿甚至是测血糖测血压拉心电图,医生护士拿的绩效跟有这些人的时候一样吗?没有这些人,医生护士自己的活就变多了,能有这么多时间精力收管这么多病人?如果名专家没有各种规培生实习生下级医生跟诊,能一天甚至是一个上午看七八十上百个号吗?确实这个绩效,是他们这些人付出了相应的劳动,然后帮助你在原来的基础上提高的。 其次,身为带教医生,是否真的有用心教规培和实习的医生临床的东西?还是说只是让他们重复无限的文书工作和送病人做检查和拿快递的各种跑腿活?很久以前,医学是师徒关系,管吃管住管教甚至管工作和结婚,但是可能没有工资,但是问题没现在的多。反观现在,随便一个人都能称之为“老师”,不知道是提升了老师这个称呼的尊重还是贬低了老师的地位,师者,传道授业解惑也,身为带教是不是担得起老师这个称呼呢?如果是担得起,规培生实习生都觉得付出劳动换回了相应的知识,又怎么会这么多人觉得是免费的劳动力?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=42, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=93454739038, createdName=605931645, createdTime=Tue Nov 14 17:42:34 CST 2023, time=2023-11-14, status=1, ipAttribution=广东省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168859, encodeId=f2dc216885944, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 这个规定本身就不合理,要是我我也不接受。规培来学校他干活是给医院干的,不是给我个个,我也没有义务去给他发工资, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=26, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=https://img.medsci.cn/20210511/791f1797094e4149b9af7d6e9b3c8744/3828bc09830b4d768d0cad5839c5dad2.jpg, createdBy=cf665497903, createdName=可講, createdTime=Thu Nov 16 16:03:00 CST 2023, time=2023-11-16, status=1, ipAttribution=上海), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168633, encodeId=75b9216863332, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 本身这种考核制度不合理,不是单纯给不给的问题。1.带教老师应该有对规培生教学质量的考核要求,不是找个廉价劳动力,而且要作为师傅传授经验给学生,在整个带教过程**同成长,有对学生打分的权利;2.学生应该有相应的学习考核要求,不是混了一段时间就可以,病人可以活生生的生命,应该认真对待,学生也有对带教老师打分的权利;各自的权利和义务有所不同,这样才能促进良性循环!, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=42, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=306a6407285, createdName=msJackie, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 11:17:12 CST 2023, 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style='color:#2F92EE;'>#插入话题#</a> 大家说的都很好,但是怎样才能做好呢?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=26, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=103958, encryptionId=a27c1039589a, topicName=插入话题)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=ede62857934, createdName=4031828, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 23:21:13 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=河南省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168622, encodeId=0be9216862241, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 规培生应该有绩效,因为他们创造价值了,但是这个绩效不应该由医生个人买单。从来没听说过院长从自己兜里给副院长拿钱,也没听说过主任从自己兜里给副主任拿钱,都是一样的道理。, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=36, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=2d114843943, createdName=1013100771, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 10:15:41 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=山东省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168497, encodeId=a376216849e75, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 如果规培生很认真,确实是有心来学习,同时完成我给安排的任务,哪怕做的不到位,知错能改,我是很愿意分一部分绩效给他们的;就怕有些人是来混规培证的,交给他们的任务比我自己做还需要更长的修改时间,甚至消极怠工,经常不见人,那就是另一说了。另外,医院也是有机制的,带教老师是有一定带教费的,这是对老师辛苦带教的肯定,也能一定程度上提高老师的带教积极性。, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=30, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=f21b6567958, createdName=ms8000002096420751, createdTime=Tue Nov 14 18:08:46 CST 2023, time=2023-11-14, status=1, ipAttribution=山东省)]
    2023-11-14 605931645 来自广东省

    首先,没有这么多的规培生、实习生帮忙写病历开医嘱换药操作和跑腿甚至是测血糖测血压拉心电图,医生护士拿的绩效跟有这些人的时候一样吗?没有这些人,医生护士自己的活就变多了,能有这么多时间精力收管这么多病人?如果名专家没有各种规培生实习生下级医生跟诊,能一天甚至是一个上午看七八十上百个号吗?确实这个绩效,是他们这些人付出了相应的劳动,然后帮助你在原来的基础上提高的。 其次,身为带教医生,是否真的有用心教规培和实习的医生临床的东西?还是说只是让他们重复无限的文书工作和送病人做检查和拿快递的各种跑腿活?很久以前,医学是师徒关系,管吃管住管教甚至管工作和结婚,但是可能没有工资,但是问题没现在的多。反观现在,随便一个人都能称之为“老师”,不知道是提升了老师这个称呼的尊重还是贬低了老师的地位,师者,传道授业解惑也,身为带教是不是担得起老师这个称呼呢?如果是担得起,规培生实习生都觉得付出劳动换回了相应的知识,又怎么会这么多人觉得是免费的劳动力?

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ipAttribution=河南省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168491, encodeId=c787216849121, content=我们这里90%以上的规培生只要有证有处方权都会正常排班,和科室医生一样干活,担任住院部一线医生独立管床,收病人入院,开医嘱,医患沟通,各种临床操作能做的都做,上夜班,就算是还没拿到处方权的,平日里也是会安排很多操作和治疗的,活不可能少,分点绩效不应该吗?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=26, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=04555692582, createdName=ms5000000820690942, createdTime=Tue Nov 14 17:34:59 CST 2023, time=2023-11-14, status=1, ipAttribution=广西), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168493, encodeId=bd5a2168493ed, content=首先,没有这么多的规培生、实习生帮忙写病历开医嘱换药操作和跑腿甚至是测血糖测血压拉心电图,医生护士拿的绩效跟有这些人的时候一样吗?没有这些人,医生护士自己的活就变多了,能有这么多时间精力收管这么多病人?如果名专家没有各种规培生实习生下级医生跟诊,能一天甚至是一个上午看七八十上百个号吗?确实这个绩效,是他们这些人付出了相应的劳动,然后帮助你在原来的基础上提高的。 其次,身为带教医生,是否真的有用心教规培和实习的医生临床的东西?还是说只是让他们重复无限的文书工作和送病人做检查和拿快递的各种跑腿活?很久以前,医学是师徒关系,管吃管住管教甚至管工作和结婚,但是可能没有工资,但是问题没现在的多。反观现在,随便一个人都能称之为“老师”,不知道是提升了老师这个称呼的尊重还是贬低了老师的地位,师者,传道授业解惑也,身为带教是不是担得起老师这个称呼呢?如果是担得起,规培生实习生都觉得付出劳动换回了相应的知识,又怎么会这么多人觉得是免费的劳动力?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=42, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=93454739038, createdName=605931645, createdTime=Tue Nov 14 17:42:34 CST 2023, time=2023-11-14, status=1, ipAttribution=广东省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168859, encodeId=f2dc216885944, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 这个规定本身就不合理,要是我我也不接受。规培来学校他干活是给医院干的,不是给我个个,我也没有义务去给他发工资, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=26, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=https://img.medsci.cn/20210511/791f1797094e4149b9af7d6e9b3c8744/3828bc09830b4d768d0cad5839c5dad2.jpg, createdBy=cf665497903, createdName=可講, createdTime=Thu Nov 16 16:03:00 CST 2023, time=2023-11-16, status=1, ipAttribution=上海), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168633, encodeId=75b9216863332, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 本身这种考核制度不合理,不是单纯给不给的问题。1.带教老师应该有对规培生教学质量的考核要求,不是找个廉价劳动力,而且要作为师傅传授经验给学生,在整个带教过程**同成长,有对学生打分的权利;2.学生应该有相应的学习考核要求,不是混了一段时间就可以,病人可以活生生的生命,应该认真对待,学生也有对带教老师打分的权利;各自的权利和义务有所不同,这样才能促进良性循环!, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=42, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=306a6407285, createdName=msJackie, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 11:17:12 CST 2023, 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createdName=1013100771, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 10:15:41 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=山东省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168497, encodeId=a376216849e75, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 如果规培生很认真,确实是有心来学习,同时完成我给安排的任务,哪怕做的不到位,知错能改,我是很愿意分一部分绩效给他们的;就怕有些人是来混规培证的,交给他们的任务比我自己做还需要更长的修改时间,甚至消极怠工,经常不见人,那就是另一说了。另外,医院也是有机制的,带教老师是有一定带教费的,这是对老师辛苦带教的肯定,也能一定程度上提高老师的带教积极性。, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=30, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=f21b6567958, createdName=ms8000002096420751, createdTime=Tue Nov 14 18:08:46 CST 2023, time=2023-11-14, status=1, ipAttribution=山东省)]
    2023-11-16 可講 来自上海

    #带教扣绩效# 这个规定本身就不合理,要是我我也不接受。规培来学校他干活是给医院干的,不是给我个个,我也没有义务去给他发工资

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[GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2178436, encodeId=847a21e84367e, content=不合理, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=16, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=, createdBy=c3e82037459, createdName=1811e8ec13m, createdTime=Sun Dec 31 23:10:27 CST 2023, time=2023-12-31, status=1, ipAttribution=吉林省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2170819, encodeId=4fdd21e0819e8, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=a27c1039589a' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#插入话题#</a> 每个地方情况不一样,不能一概而论。, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=28, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=103958, encryptionId=a27c1039589a, topicName=插入话题)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=ede62857934, createdName=4031828, createdTime=Fri Nov 24 20:43:02 CST 2023, time=2023-11-24, status=1, ipAttribution=河南省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168491, encodeId=c787216849121, content=我们这里90%以上的规培生只要有证有处方权都会正常排班,和科室医生一样干活,担任住院部一线医生独立管床,收病人入院,开医嘱,医患沟通,各种临床操作能做的都做,上夜班,就算是还没拿到处方权的,平日里也是会安排很多操作和治疗的,活不可能少,分点绩效不应该吗?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=26, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=04555692582, createdName=ms5000000820690942, createdTime=Tue Nov 14 17:34:59 CST 2023, time=2023-11-14, status=1, ipAttribution=广西), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168493, encodeId=bd5a2168493ed, content=首先,没有这么多的规培生、实习生帮忙写病历开医嘱换药操作和跑腿甚至是测血糖测血压拉心电图,医生护士拿的绩效跟有这些人的时候一样吗?没有这些人,医生护士自己的活就变多了,能有这么多时间精力收管这么多病人?如果名专家没有各种规培生实习生下级医生跟诊,能一天甚至是一个上午看七八十上百个号吗?确实这个绩效,是他们这些人付出了相应的劳动,然后帮助你在原来的基础上提高的。 其次,身为带教医生,是否真的有用心教规培和实习的医生临床的东西?还是说只是让他们重复无限的文书工作和送病人做检查和拿快递的各种跑腿活?很久以前,医学是师徒关系,管吃管住管教甚至管工作和结婚,但是可能没有工资,但是问题没现在的多。反观现在,随便一个人都能称之为“老师”,不知道是提升了老师这个称呼的尊重还是贬低了老师的地位,师者,传道授业解惑也,身为带教是不是担得起老师这个称呼呢?如果是担得起,规培生实习生都觉得付出劳动换回了相应的知识,又怎么会这么多人觉得是免费的劳动力?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=42, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=93454739038, createdName=605931645, createdTime=Tue Nov 14 17:42:34 CST 2023, time=2023-11-14, status=1, ipAttribution=广东省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168859, encodeId=f2dc216885944, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 这个规定本身就不合理,要是我我也不接受。规培来学校他干活是给医院干的,不是给我个个,我也没有义务去给他发工资, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=26, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=https://img.medsci.cn/20210511/791f1797094e4149b9af7d6e9b3c8744/3828bc09830b4d768d0cad5839c5dad2.jpg, createdBy=cf665497903, createdName=可講, createdTime=Thu Nov 16 16:03:00 CST 2023, time=2023-11-16, status=1, ipAttribution=上海), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168633, encodeId=75b9216863332, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 本身这种考核制度不合理,不是单纯给不给的问题。1.带教老师应该有对规培生教学质量的考核要求,不是找个廉价劳动力,而且要作为师傅传授经验给学生,在整个带教过程**同成长,有对学生打分的权利;2.学生应该有相应的学习考核要求,不是混了一段时间就可以,病人可以活生生的生命,应该认真对待,学生也有对带教老师打分的权利;各自的权利和义务有所不同,这样才能促进良性循环!, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=42, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=306a6407285, createdName=msJackie, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 11:17:12 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=浙江省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168631, encodeId=c25d21686315d, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a>从人情讲规培生很不容易,应该给予一定的待遇,但这应该是院里的做法,不应该强加给带教老师,自古到今实习医生不**还得多干活这是医学系统多少年积累的,想从事这个行业就得这样,这又不合适,总之各有各的道理,看带教老师理解吧,改变不了什么, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=35, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=https://wx.qlogo.cn/mmopen/jW482SpianMayicTRbRZ5RzYWia0nMBiceOVIdKq3ibFKubbK7gTtfD7KAF6ogXiceRzVH2drFiaow6ibIukSoyFPpHDd9xdGSOj8hcZ/0, createdBy=41f01710035, createdName=刘德刚, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 10:59:56 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=黑龙江省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168733, encodeId=2e7d2168e3372, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=a27c1039589a' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#插入话题#</a> 大家说的都很好,但是怎样才能做好呢?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=26, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=103958, encryptionId=a27c1039589a, topicName=插入话题)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=ede62857934, createdName=4031828, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 23:21:13 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=河南省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168622, encodeId=0be9216862241, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 规培生应该有绩效,因为他们创造价值了,但是这个绩效不应该由医生个人买单。从来没听说过院长从自己兜里给副院长拿钱,也没听说过主任从自己兜里给副主任拿钱,都是一样的道理。, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=36, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=2d114843943, createdName=1013100771, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 10:15:41 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=山东省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168497, encodeId=a376216849e75, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 如果规培生很认真,确实是有心来学习,同时完成我给安排的任务,哪怕做的不到位,知错能改,我是很愿意分一部分绩效给他们的;就怕有些人是来混规培证的,交给他们的任务比我自己做还需要更长的修改时间,甚至消极怠工,经常不见人,那就是另一说了。另外,医院也是有机制的,带教老师是有一定带教费的,这是对老师辛苦带教的肯定,也能一定程度上提高老师的带教积极性。, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=30, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=f21b6567958, createdName=ms8000002096420751, createdTime=Tue Nov 14 18:08:46 CST 2023, time=2023-11-14, status=1, ipAttribution=山东省)]
    2023-11-15 msJackie 来自浙江省

    #带教扣绩效# 本身这种考核制度不合理,不是单纯给不给的问题。1.带教老师应该有对规培生教学质量的考核要求,不是找个廉价劳动力,而且要作为师傅传授经验给学生,在整个带教过程**同成长,有对学生打分的权利;2.学生应该有相应的学习考核要求,不是混了一段时间就可以,病人可以活生生的生命,应该认真对待,学生也有对带教老师打分的权利;各自的权利和义务有所不同,这样才能促进良性循环!

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[GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2178436, encodeId=847a21e84367e, content=不合理, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=16, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=, createdBy=c3e82037459, createdName=1811e8ec13m, createdTime=Sun Dec 31 23:10:27 CST 2023, time=2023-12-31, status=1, ipAttribution=吉林省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2170819, encodeId=4fdd21e0819e8, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=a27c1039589a' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#插入话题#</a> 每个地方情况不一样,不能一概而论。, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=28, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=103958, encryptionId=a27c1039589a, topicName=插入话题)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=ede62857934, createdName=4031828, createdTime=Fri Nov 24 20:43:02 CST 2023, time=2023-11-24, status=1, ipAttribution=河南省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168491, encodeId=c787216849121, content=我们这里90%以上的规培生只要有证有处方权都会正常排班,和科室医生一样干活,担任住院部一线医生独立管床,收病人入院,开医嘱,医患沟通,各种临床操作能做的都做,上夜班,就算是还没拿到处方权的,平日里也是会安排很多操作和治疗的,活不可能少,分点绩效不应该吗?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=26, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=04555692582, createdName=ms5000000820690942, createdTime=Tue Nov 14 17:34:59 CST 2023, time=2023-11-14, status=1, ipAttribution=广西), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168493, encodeId=bd5a2168493ed, content=首先,没有这么多的规培生、实习生帮忙写病历开医嘱换药操作和跑腿甚至是测血糖测血压拉心电图,医生护士拿的绩效跟有这些人的时候一样吗?没有这些人,医生护士自己的活就变多了,能有这么多时间精力收管这么多病人?如果名专家没有各种规培生实习生下级医生跟诊,能一天甚至是一个上午看七八十上百个号吗?确实这个绩效,是他们这些人付出了相应的劳动,然后帮助你在原来的基础上提高的。 其次,身为带教医生,是否真的有用心教规培和实习的医生临床的东西?还是说只是让他们重复无限的文书工作和送病人做检查和拿快递的各种跑腿活?很久以前,医学是师徒关系,管吃管住管教甚至管工作和结婚,但是可能没有工资,但是问题没现在的多。反观现在,随便一个人都能称之为“老师”,不知道是提升了老师这个称呼的尊重还是贬低了老师的地位,师者,传道授业解惑也,身为带教是不是担得起老师这个称呼呢?如果是担得起,规培生实习生都觉得付出劳动换回了相应的知识,又怎么会这么多人觉得是免费的劳动力?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=42, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=93454739038, createdName=605931645, createdTime=Tue Nov 14 17:42:34 CST 2023, time=2023-11-14, status=1, ipAttribution=广东省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168859, encodeId=f2dc216885944, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 这个规定本身就不合理,要是我我也不接受。规培来学校他干活是给医院干的,不是给我个个,我也没有义务去给他发工资, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=26, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=https://img.medsci.cn/20210511/791f1797094e4149b9af7d6e9b3c8744/3828bc09830b4d768d0cad5839c5dad2.jpg, createdBy=cf665497903, createdName=可講, createdTime=Thu Nov 16 16:03:00 CST 2023, time=2023-11-16, status=1, ipAttribution=上海), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168633, encodeId=75b9216863332, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 本身这种考核制度不合理,不是单纯给不给的问题。1.带教老师应该有对规培生教学质量的考核要求,不是找个廉价劳动力,而且要作为师傅传授经验给学生,在整个带教过程**同成长,有对学生打分的权利;2.学生应该有相应的学习考核要求,不是混了一段时间就可以,病人可以活生生的生命,应该认真对待,学生也有对带教老师打分的权利;各自的权利和义务有所不同,这样才能促进良性循环!, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=42, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=306a6407285, createdName=msJackie, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 11:17:12 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=浙江省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168631, encodeId=c25d21686315d, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a>从人情讲规培生很不容易,应该给予一定的待遇,但这应该是院里的做法,不应该强加给带教老师,自古到今实习医生不**还得多干活这是医学系统多少年积累的,想从事这个行业就得这样,这又不合适,总之各有各的道理,看带教老师理解吧,改变不了什么, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=35, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=https://wx.qlogo.cn/mmopen/jW482SpianMayicTRbRZ5RzYWia0nMBiceOVIdKq3ibFKubbK7gTtfD7KAF6ogXiceRzVH2drFiaow6ibIukSoyFPpHDd9xdGSOj8hcZ/0, createdBy=41f01710035, createdName=刘德刚, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 10:59:56 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=黑龙江省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168733, encodeId=2e7d2168e3372, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=a27c1039589a' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#插入话题#</a> 大家说的都很好,但是怎样才能做好呢?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=26, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=103958, encryptionId=a27c1039589a, topicName=插入话题)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=ede62857934, createdName=4031828, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 23:21:13 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=河南省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168622, encodeId=0be9216862241, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 规培生应该有绩效,因为他们创造价值了,但是这个绩效不应该由医生个人买单。从来没听说过院长从自己兜里给副院长拿钱,也没听说过主任从自己兜里给副主任拿钱,都是一样的道理。, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=36, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=2d114843943, createdName=1013100771, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 10:15:41 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=山东省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168497, encodeId=a376216849e75, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 如果规培生很认真,确实是有心来学习,同时完成我给安排的任务,哪怕做的不到位,知错能改,我是很愿意分一部分绩效给他们的;就怕有些人是来混规培证的,交给他们的任务比我自己做还需要更长的修改时间,甚至消极怠工,经常不见人,那就是另一说了。另外,医院也是有机制的,带教老师是有一定带教费的,这是对老师辛苦带教的肯定,也能一定程度上提高老师的带教积极性。, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=30, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=f21b6567958, createdName=ms8000002096420751, createdTime=Tue Nov 14 18:08:46 CST 2023, time=2023-11-14, status=1, ipAttribution=山东省)]
    2023-11-15 刘德刚 来自黑龙江省

    #带教扣绩效#从人情讲规培生很不容易,应该给予一定的待遇,但这应该是院里的做法,不应该强加给带教老师,自古到今实习医生不**还得多干活这是医学系统多少年积累的,想从事这个行业就得这样,这又不合适,总之各有各的道理,看带教老师理解吧,改变不了什么

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[GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2178436, encodeId=847a21e84367e, content=不合理, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=16, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=, createdBy=c3e82037459, createdName=1811e8ec13m, createdTime=Sun Dec 31 23:10:27 CST 2023, time=2023-12-31, status=1, ipAttribution=吉林省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2170819, encodeId=4fdd21e0819e8, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=a27c1039589a' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#插入话题#</a> 每个地方情况不一样,不能一概而论。, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=28, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=103958, encryptionId=a27c1039589a, topicName=插入话题)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=ede62857934, createdName=4031828, createdTime=Fri Nov 24 20:43:02 CST 2023, time=2023-11-24, status=1, ipAttribution=河南省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168491, encodeId=c787216849121, content=我们这里90%以上的规培生只要有证有处方权都会正常排班,和科室医生一样干活,担任住院部一线医生独立管床,收病人入院,开医嘱,医患沟通,各种临床操作能做的都做,上夜班,就算是还没拿到处方权的,平日里也是会安排很多操作和治疗的,活不可能少,分点绩效不应该吗?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=26, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=04555692582, createdName=ms5000000820690942, createdTime=Tue Nov 14 17:34:59 CST 2023, time=2023-11-14, status=1, ipAttribution=广西), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168493, encodeId=bd5a2168493ed, content=首先,没有这么多的规培生、实习生帮忙写病历开医嘱换药操作和跑腿甚至是测血糖测血压拉心电图,医生护士拿的绩效跟有这些人的时候一样吗?没有这些人,医生护士自己的活就变多了,能有这么多时间精力收管这么多病人?如果名专家没有各种规培生实习生下级医生跟诊,能一天甚至是一个上午看七八十上百个号吗?确实这个绩效,是他们这些人付出了相应的劳动,然后帮助你在原来的基础上提高的。 其次,身为带教医生,是否真的有用心教规培和实习的医生临床的东西?还是说只是让他们重复无限的文书工作和送病人做检查和拿快递的各种跑腿活?很久以前,医学是师徒关系,管吃管住管教甚至管工作和结婚,但是可能没有工资,但是问题没现在的多。反观现在,随便一个人都能称之为“老师”,不知道是提升了老师这个称呼的尊重还是贬低了老师的地位,师者,传道授业解惑也,身为带教是不是担得起老师这个称呼呢?如果是担得起,规培生实习生都觉得付出劳动换回了相应的知识,又怎么会这么多人觉得是免费的劳动力?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=42, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=93454739038, createdName=605931645, createdTime=Tue Nov 14 17:42:34 CST 2023, time=2023-11-14, status=1, ipAttribution=广东省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168859, encodeId=f2dc216885944, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 这个规定本身就不合理,要是我我也不接受。规培来学校他干活是给医院干的,不是给我个个,我也没有义务去给他发工资, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=26, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=https://img.medsci.cn/20210511/791f1797094e4149b9af7d6e9b3c8744/3828bc09830b4d768d0cad5839c5dad2.jpg, createdBy=cf665497903, createdName=可講, createdTime=Thu Nov 16 16:03:00 CST 2023, time=2023-11-16, status=1, ipAttribution=上海), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168633, encodeId=75b9216863332, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 本身这种考核制度不合理,不是单纯给不给的问题。1.带教老师应该有对规培生教学质量的考核要求,不是找个廉价劳动力,而且要作为师傅传授经验给学生,在整个带教过程**同成长,有对学生打分的权利;2.学生应该有相应的学习考核要求,不是混了一段时间就可以,病人可以活生生的生命,应该认真对待,学生也有对带教老师打分的权利;各自的权利和义务有所不同,这样才能促进良性循环!, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=42, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=306a6407285, createdName=msJackie, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 11:17:12 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=浙江省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168631, encodeId=c25d21686315d, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a>从人情讲规培生很不容易,应该给予一定的待遇,但这应该是院里的做法,不应该强加给带教老师,自古到今实习医生不**还得多干活这是医学系统多少年积累的,想从事这个行业就得这样,这又不合适,总之各有各的道理,看带教老师理解吧,改变不了什么, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=35, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=https://wx.qlogo.cn/mmopen/jW482SpianMayicTRbRZ5RzYWia0nMBiceOVIdKq3ibFKubbK7gTtfD7KAF6ogXiceRzVH2drFiaow6ibIukSoyFPpHDd9xdGSOj8hcZ/0, createdBy=41f01710035, createdName=刘德刚, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 10:59:56 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=黑龙江省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168733, encodeId=2e7d2168e3372, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=a27c1039589a' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#插入话题#</a> 大家说的都很好,但是怎样才能做好呢?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=26, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=103958, encryptionId=a27c1039589a, topicName=插入话题)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=ede62857934, createdName=4031828, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 23:21:13 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=河南省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168622, encodeId=0be9216862241, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 规培生应该有绩效,因为他们创造价值了,但是这个绩效不应该由医生个人买单。从来没听说过院长从自己兜里给副院长拿钱,也没听说过主任从自己兜里给副主任拿钱,都是一样的道理。, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=36, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=2d114843943, createdName=1013100771, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 10:15:41 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=山东省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168497, encodeId=a376216849e75, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 如果规培生很认真,确实是有心来学习,同时完成我给安排的任务,哪怕做的不到位,知错能改,我是很愿意分一部分绩效给他们的;就怕有些人是来混规培证的,交给他们的任务比我自己做还需要更长的修改时间,甚至消极怠工,经常不见人,那就是另一说了。另外,医院也是有机制的,带教老师是有一定带教费的,这是对老师辛苦带教的肯定,也能一定程度上提高老师的带教积极性。, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=30, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=f21b6567958, createdName=ms8000002096420751, createdTime=Tue Nov 14 18:08:46 CST 2023, time=2023-11-14, status=1, ipAttribution=山东省)]
    2023-11-15 4031828 来自河南省

    #插入话题# 大家说的都很好,但是怎样才能做好呢?

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[GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2178436, encodeId=847a21e84367e, content=不合理, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=16, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=, createdBy=c3e82037459, createdName=1811e8ec13m, createdTime=Sun Dec 31 23:10:27 CST 2023, time=2023-12-31, status=1, ipAttribution=吉林省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2170819, encodeId=4fdd21e0819e8, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=a27c1039589a' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#插入话题#</a> 每个地方情况不一样,不能一概而论。, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=28, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=103958, encryptionId=a27c1039589a, topicName=插入话题)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=ede62857934, createdName=4031828, createdTime=Fri Nov 24 20:43:02 CST 2023, time=2023-11-24, status=1, ipAttribution=河南省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168491, encodeId=c787216849121, content=我们这里90%以上的规培生只要有证有处方权都会正常排班,和科室医生一样干活,担任住院部一线医生独立管床,收病人入院,开医嘱,医患沟通,各种临床操作能做的都做,上夜班,就算是还没拿到处方权的,平日里也是会安排很多操作和治疗的,活不可能少,分点绩效不应该吗?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=26, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=04555692582, createdName=ms5000000820690942, createdTime=Tue Nov 14 17:34:59 CST 2023, time=2023-11-14, status=1, ipAttribution=广西), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168493, encodeId=bd5a2168493ed, content=首先,没有这么多的规培生、实习生帮忙写病历开医嘱换药操作和跑腿甚至是测血糖测血压拉心电图,医生护士拿的绩效跟有这些人的时候一样吗?没有这些人,医生护士自己的活就变多了,能有这么多时间精力收管这么多病人?如果名专家没有各种规培生实习生下级医生跟诊,能一天甚至是一个上午看七八十上百个号吗?确实这个绩效,是他们这些人付出了相应的劳动,然后帮助你在原来的基础上提高的。 其次,身为带教医生,是否真的有用心教规培和实习的医生临床的东西?还是说只是让他们重复无限的文书工作和送病人做检查和拿快递的各种跑腿活?很久以前,医学是师徒关系,管吃管住管教甚至管工作和结婚,但是可能没有工资,但是问题没现在的多。反观现在,随便一个人都能称之为“老师”,不知道是提升了老师这个称呼的尊重还是贬低了老师的地位,师者,传道授业解惑也,身为带教是不是担得起老师这个称呼呢?如果是担得起,规培生实习生都觉得付出劳动换回了相应的知识,又怎么会这么多人觉得是免费的劳动力?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=42, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=93454739038, createdName=605931645, createdTime=Tue Nov 14 17:42:34 CST 2023, time=2023-11-14, status=1, ipAttribution=广东省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168859, encodeId=f2dc216885944, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 这个规定本身就不合理,要是我我也不接受。规培来学校他干活是给医院干的,不是给我个个,我也没有义务去给他发工资, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=26, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=https://img.medsci.cn/20210511/791f1797094e4149b9af7d6e9b3c8744/3828bc09830b4d768d0cad5839c5dad2.jpg, createdBy=cf665497903, createdName=可講, createdTime=Thu Nov 16 16:03:00 CST 2023, time=2023-11-16, status=1, ipAttribution=上海), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168633, encodeId=75b9216863332, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 本身这种考核制度不合理,不是单纯给不给的问题。1.带教老师应该有对规培生教学质量的考核要求,不是找个廉价劳动力,而且要作为师傅传授经验给学生,在整个带教过程**同成长,有对学生打分的权利;2.学生应该有相应的学习考核要求,不是混了一段时间就可以,病人可以活生生的生命,应该认真对待,学生也有对带教老师打分的权利;各自的权利和义务有所不同,这样才能促进良性循环!, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=42, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=306a6407285, createdName=msJackie, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 11:17:12 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=浙江省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168631, encodeId=c25d21686315d, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a>从人情讲规培生很不容易,应该给予一定的待遇,但这应该是院里的做法,不应该强加给带教老师,自古到今实习医生不**还得多干活这是医学系统多少年积累的,想从事这个行业就得这样,这又不合适,总之各有各的道理,看带教老师理解吧,改变不了什么, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=35, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=https://wx.qlogo.cn/mmopen/jW482SpianMayicTRbRZ5RzYWia0nMBiceOVIdKq3ibFKubbK7gTtfD7KAF6ogXiceRzVH2drFiaow6ibIukSoyFPpHDd9xdGSOj8hcZ/0, createdBy=41f01710035, createdName=刘德刚, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 10:59:56 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=黑龙江省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168733, encodeId=2e7d2168e3372, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=a27c1039589a' target=_blank 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createdName=1013100771, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 10:15:41 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=山东省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168497, encodeId=a376216849e75, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 如果规培生很认真,确实是有心来学习,同时完成我给安排的任务,哪怕做的不到位,知错能改,我是很愿意分一部分绩效给他们的;就怕有些人是来混规培证的,交给他们的任务比我自己做还需要更长的修改时间,甚至消极怠工,经常不见人,那就是另一说了。另外,医院也是有机制的,带教老师是有一定带教费的,这是对老师辛苦带教的肯定,也能一定程度上提高老师的带教积极性。, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=30, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=f21b6567958, createdName=ms8000002096420751, createdTime=Tue Nov 14 18:08:46 CST 2023, time=2023-11-14, status=1, ipAttribution=山东省)]
    2023-11-15 1013100771 来自山东省

    #带教扣绩效# 规培生应该有绩效,因为他们创造价值了,但是这个绩效不应该由医生个人买单。从来没听说过院长从自己兜里给副院长拿钱,也没听说过主任从自己兜里给副主任拿钱,都是一样的道理。

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[GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2178436, encodeId=847a21e84367e, content=不合理, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=16, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=, createdBy=c3e82037459, createdName=1811e8ec13m, createdTime=Sun Dec 31 23:10:27 CST 2023, time=2023-12-31, status=1, ipAttribution=吉林省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2170819, encodeId=4fdd21e0819e8, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=a27c1039589a' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#插入话题#</a> 每个地方情况不一样,不能一概而论。, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=28, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=103958, encryptionId=a27c1039589a, topicName=插入话题)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=ede62857934, createdName=4031828, createdTime=Fri Nov 24 20:43:02 CST 2023, time=2023-11-24, status=1, ipAttribution=河南省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168491, encodeId=c787216849121, content=我们这里90%以上的规培生只要有证有处方权都会正常排班,和科室医生一样干活,担任住院部一线医生独立管床,收病人入院,开医嘱,医患沟通,各种临床操作能做的都做,上夜班,就算是还没拿到处方权的,平日里也是会安排很多操作和治疗的,活不可能少,分点绩效不应该吗?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=26, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=04555692582, createdName=ms5000000820690942, createdTime=Tue Nov 14 17:34:59 CST 2023, time=2023-11-14, status=1, ipAttribution=广西), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168493, encodeId=bd5a2168493ed, content=首先,没有这么多的规培生、实习生帮忙写病历开医嘱换药操作和跑腿甚至是测血糖测血压拉心电图,医生护士拿的绩效跟有这些人的时候一样吗?没有这些人,医生护士自己的活就变多了,能有这么多时间精力收管这么多病人?如果名专家没有各种规培生实习生下级医生跟诊,能一天甚至是一个上午看七八十上百个号吗?确实这个绩效,是他们这些人付出了相应的劳动,然后帮助你在原来的基础上提高的。 其次,身为带教医生,是否真的有用心教规培和实习的医生临床的东西?还是说只是让他们重复无限的文书工作和送病人做检查和拿快递的各种跑腿活?很久以前,医学是师徒关系,管吃管住管教甚至管工作和结婚,但是可能没有工资,但是问题没现在的多。反观现在,随便一个人都能称之为“老师”,不知道是提升了老师这个称呼的尊重还是贬低了老师的地位,师者,传道授业解惑也,身为带教是不是担得起老师这个称呼呢?如果是担得起,规培生实习生都觉得付出劳动换回了相应的知识,又怎么会这么多人觉得是免费的劳动力?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=42, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=93454739038, createdName=605931645, createdTime=Tue Nov 14 17:42:34 CST 2023, time=2023-11-14, status=1, ipAttribution=广东省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168859, encodeId=f2dc216885944, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 这个规定本身就不合理,要是我我也不接受。规培来学校他干活是给医院干的,不是给我个个,我也没有义务去给他发工资, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=26, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=https://img.medsci.cn/20210511/791f1797094e4149b9af7d6e9b3c8744/3828bc09830b4d768d0cad5839c5dad2.jpg, createdBy=cf665497903, createdName=可講, createdTime=Thu Nov 16 16:03:00 CST 2023, time=2023-11-16, status=1, ipAttribution=上海), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168633, encodeId=75b9216863332, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 本身这种考核制度不合理,不是单纯给不给的问题。1.带教老师应该有对规培生教学质量的考核要求,不是找个廉价劳动力,而且要作为师傅传授经验给学生,在整个带教过程**同成长,有对学生打分的权利;2.学生应该有相应的学习考核要求,不是混了一段时间就可以,病人可以活生生的生命,应该认真对待,学生也有对带教老师打分的权利;各自的权利和义务有所不同,这样才能促进良性循环!, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=42, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=306a6407285, createdName=msJackie, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 11:17:12 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=浙江省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168631, encodeId=c25d21686315d, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a>从人情讲规培生很不容易,应该给予一定的待遇,但这应该是院里的做法,不应该强加给带教老师,自古到今实习医生不**还得多干活这是医学系统多少年积累的,想从事这个行业就得这样,这又不合适,总之各有各的道理,看带教老师理解吧,改变不了什么, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=35, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=https://wx.qlogo.cn/mmopen/jW482SpianMayicTRbRZ5RzYWia0nMBiceOVIdKq3ibFKubbK7gTtfD7KAF6ogXiceRzVH2drFiaow6ibIukSoyFPpHDd9xdGSOj8hcZ/0, createdBy=41f01710035, createdName=刘德刚, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 10:59:56 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=黑龙江省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168733, encodeId=2e7d2168e3372, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=a27c1039589a' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#插入话题#</a> 大家说的都很好,但是怎样才能做好呢?, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=26, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=103958, encryptionId=a27c1039589a, topicName=插入话题)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=ede62857934, createdName=4031828, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 23:21:13 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=河南省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168622, encodeId=0be9216862241, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 规培生应该有绩效,因为他们创造价值了,但是这个绩效不应该由医生个人买单。从来没听说过院长从自己兜里给副院长拿钱,也没听说过主任从自己兜里给副主任拿钱,都是一样的道理。, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=36, replyNumber=0, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=2d114843943, createdName=1013100771, createdTime=Wed Nov 15 10:15:41 CST 2023, time=2023-11-15, status=1, ipAttribution=山东省), GetPortalCommentsPageByObjectIdResponse(id=2168497, encodeId=a376216849e75, content=<a href='/topic/show?id=04f910e447a6' target=_blank style='color:#2F92EE;'>#带教扣绩效#</a> 如果规培生很认真,确实是有心来学习,同时完成我给安排的任务,哪怕做的不到位,知错能改,我是很愿意分一部分绩效给他们的;就怕有些人是来混规培证的,交给他们的任务比我自己做还需要更长的修改时间,甚至消极怠工,经常不见人,那就是另一说了。另外,医院也是有机制的,带教老师是有一定带教费的,这是对老师辛苦带教的肯定,也能一定程度上提高老师的带教积极性。, beContent=null, objectType=article, channel=null, level=null, likeNumber=30, replyNumber=1, topicName=null, topicId=null, topicList=[TopicDto(id=107447, encryptionId=04f910e447a6, topicName=带教扣绩效)], attachment=null, authenticateStatus=null, createdAvatar=null, createdBy=f21b6567958, createdName=ms8000002096420751, createdTime=Tue Nov 14 18:08:46 CST 2023, time=2023-11-14, status=1, ipAttribution=山东省)]
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    #带教扣绩效# 如果规培生很认真,确实是有心来学习,同时完成我给安排的任务,哪怕做的不到位,知错能改,我是很愿意分一部分绩效给他们的;就怕有些人是来混规培证的,交给他们的任务比我自己做还需要更长的修改时间,甚至消极怠工,经常不见人,那就是另一说了。另外,医院也是有机制的,带教老师是有一定带教费的,这是对老师辛苦带教的肯定,也能一定程度上提高老师的带教积极性。

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