佩服,华西医院的会诊质量太高了!

2016-10-21 燕小六 医学界

泌尿外科、ICU、麻醉、内分泌、心内科、神经内科、血管外科……10月18日下午,华西医院泌尿外科病房医生办公室。上述7个科室的8名医生,坐在一起,参与一例疑难病例会诊。泌尿外科副主任医师朱育春是本次会诊的发起人。“我请大家来出谋划策,和我一起完成患者的心愿。”朱育春笑着说。眼角的笑纹挤压出一条长长的褶皱。多会诊,专业日渐精深15:45,距离会诊开始还有15分钟。医教部老师已经到现场。她带来一张

泌尿外科、ICU、麻醉、内分泌、心内科、神经内科、血管外科……

10月18日下午,华西医院泌尿外科病房医生办公室。上述7个科室的8名医生,坐在一起,参与一例疑难病例会诊。

泌尿外科副主任医师朱育春是本次会诊的发起人。

“我请大家来出谋划策,和我一起完成患者的心愿。”朱育春笑着说。眼角的笑纹挤压出一条长长的褶皱。

多会诊,专业日渐精深

15:45,距离会诊开始还有15分钟。医教部老师已经到现场。她带来一张“多科会诊督导检查表”。

华西院内会诊有3种形态。第一,请某科室住院总急会诊,或请二线医生平会诊。第二,针对特定患者,请多个科室的二线医生参加病案讨论和会诊。第三,针对某一专业或疾病,成立多学科协作模式,出现疑难病案时,相关专业医生都给出专业的处理意见。这就是国外流行的MDT模式。

“针对第二种会诊,要先经科内讨论。科主任同意后,致电医教部。医教部会协助邀请相关科室医生,下发会诊通知等。医教部老师还要到会诊现场,记录到场人员信息,联系未到者。他们是会诊顺利进行的推手。”朱育春说。
多科会诊督导检查表

目前,华西院内普通会诊日均﹥600人次,急会诊(十分钟内到达)日均﹥30人次,疑难重大疾病多科会诊讨论日均﹥50人次(包括门诊和病房)。

朱育春是院内会诊的“VIP用户”。只要是和他专业相关的会诊,几乎逢请必到。

“我是泌尿外科肾上腺及高血压外科专业组组长。会诊让我接触到很多疑难病例,也了解到不同科室对高血压的认知。这帮助我在高血压外科领域,越做越精深。”这般说着,朱育春的嗓门越来越高。

会诊还为他打造了一个“高血压交际圈”。若遇到疑难病例,他会结合对同仁们的了解,向医教部点名“要谁参加我的会诊”。此外,医院内专长高血压诊疗的内外科医生们,几乎都是他的微信好友。平日里,大家时不时组个群,讨论新近遇到的疑难病例。

为了18日的会诊,朱育春特意建了一个群,名为“华西医院高血压外科会诊”。群内众人平均年龄在35岁,被院领导视为“华西未来不可小觑的力量”。

查文献的,谈经验的,提问题的,讲风险的……几个人聊到深夜。
“华西医院高血压外科会诊”聊得火热

有得聊,一定程度上说明朱育春的判断没错,“患者有手术机会”。

能写进教科书的案例

16:00,大家陆续到场。管床医生先介绍患者情况。

投影幕上播放着PPT,共18页,涵盖了患者基本情况、主诉、病史、各项检查结果,以及会诊诉求。
18页的PPT

每个医生的案头还放着一份“转科记录”,详细记录了该患者在华西就诊的始末。
转科记录

内分泌的李建薇和血管外科的黄斌不约而同地说:“我记得这个病例。”

李建薇认为,这是一例十分罕见的病例。

患者今年17岁,女性,2年前被诊断为双侧颈动脉体瘤合并肾上腺嗜铬细胞瘤。这可能与SDHD基因胚系突变相关。

嗜铬细胞瘤会大量分泌儿茶酚胺,导致患者血压阵发性剧烈波动。而双层的颈动脉体瘤可能包绕周围神经、血管,使患者出现神经血管受压的相关风险。

“如果手术切除肾上腺肿瘤,她极有可能出现顽固性低血压。若用药物升压,又可能因血压太高,而导致血管爆掉。”朱育春说,因为这些矛盾,患者在华西三进三出,一直都没能接受手术。这一次泌尿外科组织科室讨论时,仍有一半多医生不支持为其手术。

本次申报会诊,朱育春希望其他专业的医生能给些建议:第一,手术能不能做,如何规避术中低血压风险?第二,如果术后出现顽固低血压,如何处理?
左一为朱育春医生

突然,峰回路转

黄斌深入浅出地,给大家科普了颈动脉体瘤对手术的风险。李建薇诉说了内分泌科的种种担忧。

都是坏消息。讨论一度陷入胶着状态。朱育春提议,先去看看病人吧。

一行数十人来到病房。神经内科的周沐科第一个走近病人、了解情况。
周沐科医生查体中

众人接连发问,患者一一作答。其间,李建薇不断提醒患者:你好好想想,之前是不是晕厥过?降压药怎么停的?
左一为李建薇医生

随后,众人回到办公室。周沐科要求调出患者的头颅MRA:“患者左侧颈动脉已经闭塞,但左侧大脑的血管侧支代偿很好。目前,她收缩压110毫米汞柱,没有神经系统症状。假设术中收缩压降到70毫米汞柱,这种低血压状态时间越长,患者发生脑梗死的风险越大。有经验的医生可以第一时间判断患者病情变化,及时调整策略。”

脑外科李浩补充:“手术风险极大,尤其患者年纪轻,但高血压病程非常长,脑血管情况很不好,术中不可避免会血压波动,极易引起脑出血。这是对患者最大的威胁。因此术中血压控制,关键但也困难。脑外科会在术中和术后,全程提供支持与帮助。”

朱育春当即邀请几位医生参与手术。“有你们在,我就放心了。”

至此,会诊峰回路转。有效建议频出。

麻醉科李晓强医生接话:“我们可以做围术期床旁超声,直接评估血容量。”旁边的人低声说了一句,李晓强又答:“我们有更好的办法。我检查下设备。若没有问题,周四晚上,我给患者做个心脏超声。”

心内科徐原宁通过症状、查体、术前胸片和心脏彩超评估,觉得患者心脏功能正常。“可以考虑增加补液量,加强容量监测,来预防、减轻嗜铬细胞瘤围手术期的低血压。”

医教部老师提醒:“记得填一张申请单,给到手术室护士。这样内科医生才能进手术室。”

“做一个术前出血风险评估吧。费用不高,结果很具有参考价值。”不知谁冒出这么一句。

ICU的周琰医生主动请缨。“我也参加手术吧。患者术后一定会到ICU。我需要提前了解情况。”
右一为血管外科黄斌;右二为ICU周琰;左一为麻醉科李晓强

疑难病例多?因为是华西

17:05,朱育春看了眼时间。原计划30分钟结束的会诊讨论,超时了。他招呼道:“今天先这样吧,后续就照刚才说的办。”

李建薇拦住大家:“这次手术问题是解决了。但患者还有一侧颈动脉体瘤。我很担心肿瘤会继续长。”

已经起身的众人,又纷纷坐下。黄斌再一次开启“颈动脉体瘤科普”模式。

聊着聊着,思维又发散了。有人谈到,术后要建议患者筛查基因突变。“一旦证实,整个家族都要来查。”

李建薇感叹:“我们怎么有那么多疑难手术呀。”

人群中,有人悠悠地说:“因为这里是华西。”

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    2016-10-23 fengyqf
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    2016-10-21 qixiaotong123

    大家都智慧超过某一人

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    2016-10-21 蓬莱阁

    MDT深入人心。

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